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Joe Clarke Racing Review

Joe Clarke Racing is a new horse racing tipster service operated by the eponymous Joe Clarke. It appears to be a wholly independent service that claims to offer rather substantial profits based off seemingly low risk betting.

What does the product offer?

The sales material for Joe Clarke Racing takes an approach which is somewhat reserved and as such, I approached the service almost with high hopes. In my experience, it is the services which make the most ludicrous of claims that often turn out to lose the most money, especially with horse racing. In the case of Joe Clarke Racing however, the copy simply focuses on what the service can do.

In terms of what you are signing up for, there is once again a very sensible approach when Joe Clarke talks about the logistics of his tipster service. In all honesty, I would even go as far as to say that Joe Clarke Racing is the most average horse racing tipster service that I have looked at in my life. It is a near daily service with Joe Clarke issuing selections directly via email.

If there is one way that Joe Clarke Racing does stand out from the crowd logistically, it is in the approach to betting. A lot of tipster services will recommend you use a certain set of bookmakers or even ones that offer BOG (best odds guaranteed). Joe Clarke however seems to recommend creating yourself a Betfair account (if you don’t already have one) and using the exchange for betting.

On a given day, you can generally expect between 1 and 3 bets, however as is to be expected this may be more or less. To create some context, Joe Clarke Racing has never issued more than 111 bets in a single month according to the proofing which is suppled. The odds that you are backing are somewhat varied however I should point out that they rarely get above 6.0. This means that you aren’t necessarily backing longer odds which is in turn, something that you would expect the strike rate to reflect.

This does allow me to segue rather neatly onto the numbers side of things for Joe Clarke Racing. The staking plan is straight forward and based on level one point stakes. The strike rate meanwhile stands  at 36.59% for 2016 according to Joe Clarke. Both of these fit in with the seemingly over arcing theme of averageness which permeates Joe Clarke Racing.

How does the product work?

Whilst Joe Clarke is very clearly happy to talk about Joe Clarke Racing as a product, he is somewhat rather less willing to discuss the selection process. This is a massive bugbear of mine. Whilst I wouldn’t expect a tipster to give away their system at all, I do think that as a potential consumer, you should be provided with some information so that you can at least make an informed decision on what you are buying into.

Given the fact that Joe Clarke Racing is so apparently average, this makes it rather difficult to even try an educated guess as to what the system may entail. The only thing that I can really ascertain from the results is that Joe Clarke doesn’t really seem to take any risks with Joe Clarke Racing (which is no surprise). All that this tells me however is that the system must be focused on consistent wins rather than something which waits “for the big one” to hit.

What is the initial investment?

Joe Clarke is offering two different types of subscription for Joe Clarke Racing. The first of these is a monthly affair and is charged at a rate of £20 per month. Alternatively, you can sign up for Joe Clarke Racing for a full year at a cost of £179 (saving you £61 on the monthly costs). It is worth pointing out that both of these price points aren’t inclusive of VAT.

Whilst it is isn’t actually mentioned in the sales material anywhere (rather disappointingly) there is a money back guarantee in place for the service. In fact, because Joe Clarke Racing is ultimately sold through Clickbank, this is in place for 60 days from the date that you purchase the product.

What is the rate of return?

In 2016 (and 2017 to date), Joe Clarke Racing supposedly made a profit of £7,358.20 using £50 stakes. This is an important number to keep in mind as this is the same figure that most of the affiliate material for Joe Clarke Racing uses. This means that to £10 stakes, you would have made £1,471.64 points, a number that may still sound reasonable.

Unfortunately, when you calculate Joe Clarke Racing as a point profit, the service has actually made just 147.16 points of profit in 13 months. This averages at close to just 10 points per month. It is also worth keeping in mind that Joe Clarke says that his selections have also had 3 losing months in this time period.

Conclusion

As far as tipster services go, I feel like Joe Clarke Racing does a very good job of simply writing itself into a corner in many respects. There are other criticism that I have and things that need to be explored, but first and foremost I shall address the obvious and that is the results. Joe Clarke says that Joe Clarke Racing has performed well, however, as somebody who has looked at more tipster services in recent times than I have had hot dinners, I can honestly say that 147.16 points in a year simply isn’t good enough.

The fact is that the tipster market is massively competitive and if you aren’t bringing home at least 200 points of profit per year, then you simply aren’t competing. Some may view this as harsh and say that a profit is a profit, but Joe Clarke isn’t asking for the lowest possible price with Joe Clarke Racing. Whilst I will acknowledge that £20 per month is half or even a third of what some tipsters will charge, it is still a long way from cheap.

The next point that I wish to raise relates to the authorship of Joe Clarke Racing. From what my research has unveiled, Joe Clarke Racing seems to be operated by the same person behind a free tipster service that recently did the rounds, Back Place Win. I ultimately chose not to do a write up on the service when it was brought to my attention, but since then there has also been another release from the same creator in the form of a weekly tipster service.

Both of these were ultimately quietly closed without ceremony and I can now report that they exist to mainly push other affiliate offers. This doesn’t instil a great sense of confidence in me for the long term plans for Joe Clarke Racing either. Especially when you consider the fact that Joe Clarke doesn’t really mention the money back guarantee or anything either.

As it is then, I don’t think that I would recommend Joe Clarke Racing in its current format. The fact is that I just don’t think that the service can deliver and I don’t think that it is cheap enough for this to not be a massive problem. Consider as well that there is no information on the underlying system to explain how Joe Clarke Racing is in its current position and all I can see is risk. Given the competitive market, there are plenty of tipster services that I believe will be better able to produce results, and as such I don’t see the value in Joe Clarke Racing.

 

 
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  1. Steve

    Right now Betting Gods are promoting Joe Clark racing, with a free months trial. No card details needed, no obligation. I’m currently doing a trial of it myself and its going well so far.

    • Nigel

      I also signed up through Betting Gods for a free trial of Joe Clarke racing. The first two days were ok with three winners out of four, followed by one out of two which was priced at about 4/1 or 9/2. Since those first two days it has been a succession of losing tips. I know you should give things a chance but I think even I can pick 1 winner in approximately 10 bets.

  2. John

    Iam in his free month I won’t be paying. Tips a lot off Shortie’s and after approximately 3 weeks iam down !

  3. Scam hater

    This is highly likely to be another (defamation removed, as Google can remove the page from the search if that word is in there) site.

    I got an unrequeted email about this from a person/group that have also used the following pseudonyms to promote their services. I am now up to 10 emails per day having signed up for one list.

    Sometimes they use the same mailing address as each other as they seem to get confused who they are supposed to be operating as.

    The lastest one, I got 10 emails today about it, is “SteadySteveO”.

    They all use Aweber for mailing, Clickbank for payments and GoDaddy for web-hosting.

    My recommendation is to stop the trial and get your money back but it’s up to you.

    Pony Profits – run by “Terry” – Office 12 Wellington House, East Road, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, CB1 1BH, UNITED KINGDOM

    Joe Clarke (did not sign up) – uses Raceology.net Aweber group – Queensway House, Queensway, Middlesbrough, Teesside, TS3 8TF, UNITED KINGDOM

    The Inside Rail (did not sign up) – run by “Rob” – 48 Gloucester Road, Cheltenham, GL510ST, UNITED KINGDOM

    The Win Advisor – Darren (did not sign up) – Office 12 Wellington House, East Road, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, CB1 1BH, UNITED KINGDOM – same address as “Pony Profits – Terry” and “Boom Bets – Nick”

    Each Way Craig (did not sign up) – run by “Craig” – Queensway House, Queensway, Middlesbrough, Teesside, TS3 8TF
    UNITED KINGDOM – Note this is the same address of “Joe Clarke” and “Chris – Weekly Winners”

    Boom Bets (did not sign up) – run by “Nick” – Office 12 Wellington House, East Road, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, CB1 1BH, UNITED KINGDOM – Note this is the same address as “Terry – Pony Profits” and “Darren – The Win Advisor”

    Weekly Winners (did not sign up) – run by “Chris” – Queensway House, Queensway, Middlesbrough, Teesside, TS3 8TF – same address as “Joe Clarke” and “Each Way Craig”

    “Rob” (did not sign up) – All Weather King – email sent by “Racing Pays” – Suite 312a, Cotton Exchange, Liverpool, ME L39LQ
    “Stu” (did not sign up) – Profit on the Flat – email sent by “Racing Pays” – Suite 312a, Cotton Exchange, Liverpool, ME L39LQ

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