2 Win Profit System is a new to market horse racing tipster service that s being offered by Josh Tedham. He claims that his approach to betting can avoid excessive betting and long losing streaks.
Introduction to 2 Win Profit System
I don’t necessarily believe that there is a right or wrong way to bet. There are very few things that I think every bettor is looking for. But there are definitely things that any smart bettor will look to avoid. Firstly, there is the obvious one. Losing. Of course, losing is an inevitability when it comes to betting. Even the best systems will lose sometimes. Things do just go wrong. The secret is to avoid losing regularly. For me, profitable betting is all about one thing, and that is consistency.
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That brings me to today’s review subject. In many respects, 2 Win Profit System isn’t a unique beast. What Josh Tedham is doing here isn’t anything new or revolutionary or even particularly different to things that I haven’t seen many times before. What are a little different however, are the claims that are made. A simple approach to betting that allows for significant profit potential. All whilst mitigating risk to your betting bank. Those are some solid foundations for a service. Which means you’re onto a winner, right?
The truth of the matter is that whilst 2 Win Profit System undeniably feels like it is going to be a great service, there are one or two questions that I think hang over it all. Josh Tedham talks a good talk, but whether or not he can actually deliver on any of this. Well, I am a little more skeptical about that. You see, whilst all of the right noises are made, there is one thing more than any other that is missing from this service. That is a lack of evidence that in my experience would suggest that this is all above board. Let’s get into it and I’ll explain as I go.
What Does 2 Win Profit System Offer?
As far as 2 Win Profit System as an offering goes, it is something of a contradiction. There are a lot of elements of what Josh Tedham is doing that are commendably straightforward. By the same token, some of the stuff just sees to be unnecessarily convoluted to me. The way it is presented tries to make sense, but I am rather doubtful about how well it works in practice.
Another thing that is present in 2 Win Profit System that I like to see is a pretty solid structure. Josh Tedham clearly sets out the rules of his betting. When managed correctly, this is something else that can be a positive. Put simply, it leaves less room for things to go off the rails, and ultimately, wrong.
When talking about a tipster service like 2 Win Profit System, there are two key considerations. The first is the management of the service. This is how Josh Tedham goes about things, and resultantly, what the end user experience is like. This is one of those areas where it is all incredibly straightforward and is like so many other tipster services that I see.
Selections are of course sent out directly via email. They tend to land a little later in the morning on the day of racing. Something at least slightly interesting in this regard is that Josh Tedham doesn’t bet on Sundays. The reasoning for this isn’t discussed, but that might be a factor for some people looking at 2 Win Profit System.
In terms of the content of the emails, it’s all a bit basic to be honest. Don’t get me wrong, if you’re following 2 Win Profit System you’ll know what you’re betting on. But that is about as far as it goes with information like odds quite sorely lacking. Something that is somewhat glossed over in the sales material too.
What you are told in this regard is simply use any bookie you like (everything on the sales page is supposedly from Betfair). A statement that seems a touch lazy to me. For what it’s worth, if I were going to follow 2 Win Profit System I would at least use an odds comparison site. That way you can at least try and maximise your winnings.
This does of course mean some extra work on your behalf. But the fact is that the approach that Josh Tedham takes means that you aren’t exactly dealing with big winners on the regular. In actual fact, most of the horses tipped have quite low odds. On occasion, 2 Win Profit System might get above 4/1 but that seems to be as far as it goes based off what I’ve seen.
Now, let’s talk about the bets that you are actually placing. This is something that is key to how 2 Win Profit System works. Every day there are just two horses advised that are then to be backed as singles and then brought together into a double. Like I said, this is a tipster service that is very structured. It also seems low volume, but it can get expensive.
The staking plan that Josh Tedham uses means that you are effectively staking 2.5 points per day. 1 each on the singles and half a point on the double. That means just 15 points per week. That’s not a lot really. Combine that with a betting bank of 100 points and you’re seemingly looking incredibly stable in the long term.
To make up the numbers, Josh Tedham also uses compounded stakes. This means that as your betting bank increases you then start doubling up your stakes. In theory, this isn’t a bad thing. It means that 2 Win Profit System can become exponentially more profitable whilst the risk effectively stars the same. That idea is however based on the notion that you can get to the required profit levels.
Theoretically, this shouldn’t be a problem. Josh Tedham claims a strike rate a little over 50% for 2 Win Profit System. This is however based off a single week of betting. If those results are all above board, you are still dealing with a very small data sample size. It certainly isn’t enough to say that those are the kinds of results you should expect moving forward.
How Does 2 Win Profit System Work?
There is a lot about 2 Win Profit System that I find to be rather frustrating, if I’m really honest. One thing that Josh Tedham does do well to be fair to him is explain what the service is about. What the approach means and how it all comes together (on paper at least). This can really be broken down into three key elements. The first one I’ve just mentioned. That is compounding your winnings when you have taken out a certain amount of profit.
The second element is based around the way the bets are brought together. Combining two singles and a double on lower odds horses is an approach that makes a certain amount of sense. You have smaller and more consistent wins, then when a double lands 2 Win Profit System wins big. This is something that should happen relatively often in theory. After all, it isn’t like Josh Tedham is waiting around or rank outsiders to win a race.
Finally, there is the single most important element of 2 Win Profit System. That is how Josh Tedham actually finds selections. This is an area that is often overlooked but here, he is quite upfront. We are told that the service is based on form study and hard work. This includes considering “the form over the distance, at the track, with the same jockey, in the same conditions and taking into account the handicap being carried”.
On top of this, we are also told that there is some secret criteria that allows for these selections to be whittled down to two bets. Ultimately, this is the most important part and it doesn’t strike me as coincidence that this is the bit that is hidden away. Adding somewhat to these concerns is a distinctive lack of proofing and that lack of evidence that I mentioned elsewhere
What is the Initial Investment?
If you want to sign up to 2 Win Profit System there is only one option available. That is a one time payment of £30 (plus VAT). This gives you access to Josh Tedham’s selections for 3 months. This period of time supposedly allows you to take your bank to a point where you can compound your stakes for the first time.
Something that really stands out to me when looking at 2 Win Profit System is that Josh Tedham completely fails to mention the fact that there is a 30 day money back guarantee in place for the service. This is backed up by the fact that it is being sold via Clickbank. Whilst this is all concerning, it does mean that you shouldn’t have any problems claiming a refund if required.
What is the Rate of Return?
Of course, the most important thing when you’re looking at a tipster service is simple. How much money can you expect to make? Over the course of a week, Josh Tedham claims that 2 Win Profit System would have seen a profit of £372.06. To the £20 per point stakes used, this means a theoretical 15.7 points. This isn’t suggested to be anything other then the norm.
In the meantime, we are told that Josh Tedham supposedly made £11,000 from betting last year. Very importantly, we are told that 2 Win Profit System can double your starting bank in 3 months. Again, there isn’t a massive amount of evidence backing these numbers up and as such, I would be inclined to treat them with a pinch of salt.
Conclusion for 2 Win Profit System
One of the easiest things to do when you’re selling a new product is make it sound good. It’s incredibly easy to do. All that is really required is the ability to put together a convincing sounding idea and some decent looking profits. The difficult part is actually delivering on all of this, and that is where 2 Win Profit System seems to fall apart.
Make no mistake about it, the service that Josh Tedham sells sounds appealing. There are some good looking ideas here. Especially doubling down on pretty simple bets that have that apparently high strike rate. What I don’t see, rather unfortunately, is an ability do deliver on all of the promise the ideas that 2 Win Profit System presents.
Josh Tedham has supposedly been betting this way for at least a year. What evidence do we get backing this up? Well, not surprisingly, the answer is not much of anything. It is very easy to look at a weeks worth of betting slips and call that concrete. But I have seen those same sorts of Betfair “winning slips” on so many questionable services I take them with a big dose of salt.
If there is a past year of results, why aren’t they shown? On top of all of that, I will openly profess to being really quite sceptical about these secretive “few other criteria”. Whilst I can understand why a tipster wouldn’t necessarily want to give away everything for free, it is striking that this key element of 2 Win Profit System isn’t discussed.
Whilst there could be a very genuine reason for it, it is rather difficult to ignore the alternative. The other reason that this may well be kept behind lock and key is simply because there isn’t some secretive final step. With some more evidence, I might just be inclined to simply take this at face value. That doesn’t seem like a prudent move to me though.
Then there are other elements that are a cause for concern with 2 Win Profit System too. The fact that Josh Tedham simply leaves so much to subscribers strikes me as a bit questionable. As I have mentioned, the fact that there is no mention of the money back guarantee is a massive cause for concern entirely in and of itself. I could continue to list the little niggling doubts, but there are simply too many of them.
The truth of the matter is that I have looked at a lot of tipster services in my time. Some of them have been genuine and above board. Others haven’t been. Those that are genuine will typically fall over themselves in order to sell their services. Josh Tedham simply doesn’t do that. The idea of “2 Win Ted” sounds a lot like a marketing gimmick, and I suspect that is mostly what it is.
Bringing it all together, what you have is a basic idea. It is at least coherent and has some grounding in a reasonable betting service. But that also strikes me as by design rather than for any particular reason. Honestly, 2 Win Profit System is definitely one to miss in my opinion. Sure, Josh Tedham isn’t asking a lot. But sometimes, when you don’t pay a lot for a bad product, you’re still just paying for a bad product.
