20 Day Challenge Review David Gibbs

20 Day Challenge is a new to market horse racing tipster service which is being sold by one David Gibbs. He makes some truly incredible claims about the abilities of his tips.

Introduction to 20 Day Challenge

It is no real secret that you don’t necessarily need to be winning all the time to make a profit through betting. In fact, people who have that expectation don’t tend to stick around for long enough to actually see any profit. This is exactly why I always talk about the need to focus on betting with a long term perspective. I cannot stress enough that it is, generally speaking, only with time that you really start to see a payoff. Unfortunately, this is also something that can easily be hidden behind. Is a tipster having a bad run, or just plain bad?

Anyway, musings on all of this aside, I want to talk a little bit about today’s review subject, 20 Day Challenge. And I also want to tie together my apparent ramblings with David Gibbs’s service. Because there is some relevance here. You see, something that really stands out to me is that David Gibbs says that he is able to turn a profit, despite “Winning Just 6 Out Of 40 Bets”. This is an interesting claim. As is the notion that 20 Day Challenge isn’t a service that has that focus on the long term. In fact, as the name suggests, this is all about turning a very quick profit.

Where this stands out to me is that rather interestingly, almost everything about this goes against the grain of what I would call conventional betting logic. Can people make a lot of money in the short term? Absolutely. This doesn’t make what David Gibbs is doing with 20 Day Challenge unique. Just like any tipster can have a bad run, they can also have a good run. But the suggestion that the results can be easily replicated is what really jumps out at me. So, let’s get straight into it and find out what is what here.

What Does 20 Day Challenge Offer?

I am always interested when I see one of these “challenge” based betting systems/tipster services. And recently, there have been a good number of them to be interested by. You see, in my mind, if you have a good approach to betting, you have a good approach to betting. I really don’t understand the obsession with “gamifying” everything. Unfortunately, 20 Day Challenge and many others like it love this marketing.

You see, on the surface of things, it looks like David Gibbs has a decent handle on betting. Most of what he does is sensible and the kinds of things I would expect to see from a genuine tipster who takes their betting seriously. All things that ultimately count as a positive for 20 Day Challenge. And these things are evident in multiple ways.

Firstly, I want to talk about the bets. The whole premise of 20 Day Challenge is that you are taking advantage of each way bets (which is how David Gibbs manages to get away with claiming just 6 bets in 40 “won”). This is all very sensible in my mind because ultimately, you are looking at some really quite long shots here.

In terms of odds, 20 Day Challenge involves betting at anywhere from 11/1 all the way up to 33/1 looking at the (rather limited) evidence that is provided. In and of itself, there isn’t really anything wrong with this. There are plenty of tipster services I’ve looked at that rely on this kind of betting, however, there are a few concerning points surrounding this.

One of the main ones is that if you look at what David Gibbs has done historically, he seems to have simply placed all of his bets through Paddy Power. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Paddy Power do offer BOG on their bets. However, there isn’t really much advice on odds or where to bet. It is very much at the bare minimum level of things.

For my money, this makes it a very worthwhile thing to consider taking advantage of an odds comparison site. At the very least, it provides peace of mind that even if David Gibbs is going to skip over this rather vital information, you at least know that you’ve done everything you can to ensure 20 Day Challenge is as profitable as it can be.

Now, what is interesting in my mind is the fact that 20 Day Challenge is based entirely around placing just 2 bets per day, every day, of the 20 day challenge. And this is where things start to get a little concerning if I’m completely honest. Because this means that David Gibbs is finding a guaranteed two long shots per day, that seemingly have a chance of winning. That just isn’t something that is all that common.

Logistically, 20 Day Challenge is pretty much what you would expect. The two selections are sent out directly via email on the morning of racing. Really, there isn’t anything here that I haven’t seen literally hundreds (if not thousands) of times before from other tipsters. And, as I’ve already touched on, the information provided is pretty basic.

What is less basic is the staking plan that is in place. As you might expect for a service that claims to turn a small betting bank into a big payday, in a very short space of time, there is a lot of compounding involved. The idea here is to start with £100 and stakes £10 per bet. Every time your profits go up a notch, you double your stakes. So a £200 bank means £20 stakes and so on.

For context, there are a few things that this means. Firstly, despite the fact that the stakes change, you’re still ultimately dealing with a level staking plan. Secondly, you are expect to have a betting bank of around 10 points (20 Day Challenge is technically a little more complex than this, but that is the gist). That is a very small amount to be betting in my mind. Especially at those odds.

In theory, this should all be offset by the strike rate. According to David Gibbs, on the last 20 day run he had 18 bets that won or placed. This suggests that a strike rate of 35-45% is something that you can expect from 20 Day Challenge. A figure that I am massively sceptical of, even factoring in those place bets. 

How Does 20 Day Challenge Work?

The key to 20 Day Challenge is the “special staking system”. Something that David Gibbs is keen to mention in the sales material quite a lot. He is clearly very proud of what he has put together here. And in theory it is all well and good and harmless enough. I mean, it certainly looks reasonable enough on paper (although I remain unconvinced, but that is a point I will come to a little later).

Unfortunately, what David Gibbs clearly decides is “less key” is what the selection process for 20 Day Challenge actually entails. And this is something that in my mind, is incredibly important. Putting aside for one second that without a decent selection process any tipster service is doomed to fail, I want to put into context why it has so much impact here.

Retuning to my point from before, David Gibbs is finding 2 long shot bets every day that should have at least some chance of winning. And I just don’t know how he’s going about that. Sure, I’ve seen tipsters leverage this kind of betting successfully. Betting on value is a proven way of making profits in the long term. But those services are selective and aren’t betting every single day.

The fact of the matter is that the core premise of 20 Day Challenge seems to be based around a staking plan. David Gibbs certainly doesn’t do anything in my mind that demonstrates to the contrary. And this is a bit of a problem, because no staking plan will work without betting on decent bets. The fact that the selection process isn’t talked about suggests to me that there is little of substance there, and as such, I don’t really see how this can be profitable over that short term that it is focused on. 

What is the Initial Investment?

If you want to sign up to 20 Day Challenge, there are two options available. However, it is worth noting that David Gibbs takes a rather unique approach to how he sells his service. What you actually buy are “passes” for a run of his challenge, that is to say, 20 days worth of selections.

The cheaper option is a “Single Challenge Pass”. This is priced at £25 (plus VAT) and gives you a single run at 20 Day Challenge. Alternatively, you can pay £75 (again, plus VAT) for a Multi-Challenge Pass”. This works out at just £15 for each 20 day period, and gives you 5 goes at it.  Of course, this represents better value, however, it does mean more commitment.

What really stands out to me about the pricing element of 20 Day Challenge though is this. The service comes with a full 60 day money back guarantee. This is backed up by the fact that David Gibbs is selling the service through Clickbank (who are generally very good at enforcing this if required). Despite this, it isn’t mentioned anywhere in the sales material. Something that is a bit of a red flag to me.

What is the Rate of Return?

The core selling point of 20 Day Challenge is simple. Within 20 days, you can expect to have made more than £2,000 starting out with just £100. Specifically, David Gibbs claims in the headline that he was able to turn this into £2,587. He also claims to have turned £100 into £1,856 17 days into a second run that is due to wrap up shortly.

This is also a number that will likely increase, however, it is of note that this isn’t being “live proofed”. Even though results have been updated on the 20 Day Challenge sales page, the actual selections haven’t been sent out. Which is of course highly suspect.

Conclusion for 20 Day Challenge

The idea that David Gibbs presents for 20 Day Challenge is definitely an appealing one. The idea of starting with just a few hundred quid and ending up less than 3 weeks later having a good couple of thousand… well, that would be one hell of a result. However, there are some very simple questions in my mind about whether or not this can actually be achieved.

So, where do you actually begin with this? Well, first things first, let’s address the risk that you are ultimately taking on. Because this is something that I don’t actually think gets nearly adequate attention. Now, I will admit that really, any tipster service or betting system carries some risk. That is part and parcel of betting. But here, there is a lot of it.

Before I get to things like the strike rate etc. I want to address the financial risk. This is something that is really worthwhile considering because on the surface of things, 20 Day Challenge just doesn’t have that much at risk. After all, you’re only talking about £100, right? But here’s the bottom line. You’re looking at a betting bank of 10 points. Backing odds that really don’t have that much chance of winning.

Because here is something that I really want to address. I haven’t ever seen a tipster service backing the kinds of odds that David Gibbs does come in with a strike rate even close to the claimed results. Now, with some comprehensive proofing, you might be able to get behind 20 Day Challenge. But there isn’t it. You’re looking at a few rounds of bets that have all conveniently happened. What isn’t actually proofed are the bets in any sort of “real world” way.

On top of all of this, let’s not forget the fact that there are a few choices that David Gibbs makes that only add to these very valid concerns. One of the big ones for me with 20 Day Challenge is the pricing structure. Not necessarily the fact that you are paying for cycles of bets, so much as the convenient fact that the 60 day money back guarantee isn’t mentioned at all.

Now, I will fully concede that in theory, this could easily be explained away as an oversight. It isn’t inconceivable to me that you just miss out a bit of information. But when you look at how much of 20 Day Challenge is all just a bit skipped over… Well it doesn’t bode particularly well. Because in my eyes, there is a lot that is “just a bit skipped over”.

Selection process? Not discussed. Just 2 bets per day, every day, for 20 days. Insight into odds and where to place bets? Barely touched upon. A rudimentary betting system that is definitely portrayed as being something much better than it is? Well, that is actually there for 20 Day Challenge. However, it is also something that counts as a negative in my mind.

Honestly, I look at a lot of questionable tipster services, and David Gibbs ticks pretty much every one of the boxes. That isn’t a great place to start out, at all. And with that in mind, it probably won’t come as any surprise at this point to learn that I wouldn’t really look to recommend 20 Day Challenge. I see very little of merit, and even less that is deserving of the costs involved. As such, this really deserves a pretty wide berth in my eyes.  

 

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From: Simon Roberts