4 The Win Review Anthony Taylor

4 The Win is a new to market horse racing tipster service which is operated by one Anthony Taylor. He claims that by using very low stakes, you can produce a substantial profit following his betting advice.

Introduction to 4 The Win

To at least some degree, I think that it’s probably fair to say that I have a bit more of a leaning towards prudence when it comes to betting than most people. The fact of the matter is that I think if you want to be successful in the long term, you have to be very considerate about the approach that you take. And a big part of this is risk management, a topic that doesn’t really have hard and fast rules. But what I like to see when I look at a tipster is that there has been some consideration for this.

This leads me to 4 The Win in which creator, Anthony Taylor, opens with a headline that asks, “Want BIG WINS From LOW STAKES?”. Well that’ll certainly go a long way to that whole risk management thing I just mentioned, right? And if the results are to be believed, there is a massive amount of money to be made with the approach as well. So honestly, this just looks like it should be a win win situation.

The problem that I have with this is that like so many services I see in a similar vein to 4 The Win (because I have seen plenty of them) is the fact that, if I’m honest, I find myself to be very sceptical of the results that are claimed. You see, I’ll talk about this in detail later on, but what Anthony Taylor is claiming here is that he made close to £14,000 in a month. That is a huge amount of money. And I struggle to reconcile that in a wider context. So, let’s get straight into it.  

What Does 4 The Win Offer?

As far as tipster services go, I actually think it’s quite fair to highlight that Anthony Taylor does appear to have a decent structure in place. This at the very least means that following along with the service is both easier, and more manageable than some of the tipster services that I look at. Unfortunately, I can’t help but think that may be one of the few positive things to say about 4 The Win.

So, what exactly does that mean for you? Well, first things first, 4 The Win is not a daily tipster service. In actual fact, Anthony Taylor only provides selections 5 days a week, Monday through Friday. This means that you get the weekend off betting, and it also means that in conjunction with the staking plan, the actual amount that you are betting each week is very much “set”.

As you would probably expect, selections are sent out to subscribers directly via email. However, they are sent out the evening before racing, typically around 10pm. Now, the information contained within the emails is all a bit basic if I’m honest, and one of the key factors that is missing is advice on odds. In actual fact, Anthony Taylor simply says to place them with a bookie of your choice.

Probably not surprisingly, this means of course that I would recommend an odds comparison website. You see, because 4 The Win is a service that deals with accumulators, the range in value is massive. The same bet can easily bring you in more than 100 extra points (and potentially more). And given that you won’t be winning that often, that represents a massive increase in terms of the profit potential when a bet does land.

Whilst I’m touching on the topic, let’s have a look at those accas in a bit more detail. 4 The Win is exclusively concerned with using 4 folds. However, all of those accumulators are advised as win based. Naturally, this leads to much bigger winnings when a bet does come in, but it also means that inherently, you will have a very small number of winners.

This applies doubly so when you look at the kind of bets that Anthony Taylor advises. There is a general focus on backing horses that are ultimately at pretty middling odds (think 3/1 and above). When you’re betting on individual horses, that isn’t necessarily a deal breaker, but with 4 The Win, you’re reliant on every one of them to come in in order for your bet to have some profitability.

Of course, all of this sounds like it is going to be a money sink, but you have to come back to the fact that ultimately, 4 The Win is a low volume service. Don’t forget, you are placing one bet per day, Monday through Friday. And even then, Anthony Taylor says that there may be days where there are no bets available. This means that at most, you’re placing just 5 bets per week. Less than some tipsters may advise in a day.

Now, let’s return to that idea of risk management. Which also happens to tie in with the number sides of 4 The Win that I have left to discuss. Firstly, stakes. 5 bets are advised each week, and Anthony Taylor advises betting £4 on each bet. That means that at the very most, you’ll be betting £20 per week. Let’s be honest, that isn’t really a massive amount of money. Especially compared to some services.

What is concerning however is that there is no information on a betting bank. Anthony Taylor does say that “If you are betting day by day without a dedicated betting bank this is not for you”, but he doesn’t tell you how much you should need to bet. Realistically, I’d imagine it would be a hell of a lot given the numbers that are involved.

Which leads me to the strike rate. Because we are told that in September and October, there were just 5 winning bets. That’s a strike rate of about 11%. Now honestly, I would view this as a best case scenario (although if I’m honest I’m very sceptical of even this number). Realistically, you could go months without a winning bet, something I don’t think is a coincidence.

How Does 4 The Win Work?

The core idea of 4 The Win is a relatively simple one. By not betting a lot of money, you can theoretically quite easily bank roll bets until an acca lands. And when it does land, you will potentially see massive amounts of profit. For example, starting with £1,000, you’d have seen your betting bank increase by some 14 times if Anthony Taylor’s results are to be believed.

This is an approach that I have seen utilised quite often, but there is one element of how 4 The Win works that isn’t discussed, and if I’m honest, it is very concerning to me. That is the lack of information on the selection process. Truth be told, this is an area that Anthony Taylor doesn’t even touch on.

All that we are told is that the horses selected are the ones that Anthony Taylor things has the best chance of winning (one would hope so), and that he has “learned quite a few from tipsters over the years”. From this, he created a system that is behind 4 The Win. What does this system look at? What does it entail? God knows! But the suggestion here is that Anthony Taylor is adamant that there is a system in place, and that is the important part (at least from a marketing perspective).

Honestly, it isn’t even like you’re getting anything that is really proofed. At best, you’re shown 5 bets out of 44. But if I’m honest, I wouldn’t really look to put too much weight on this in my opinion. The fact is that even if the results are genuine, then at best, you’re looking at 2 months of proofing. That isn’t a massive sample of data, and I wouldn’t take these results as being typical of what you can expect from 4 The Win.  

What is the Initial Investment?

There are two different options if you want to subscribe to 4 The Win. The first of these is a 2 month plan which is priced at £38 plus VAT. Alternatively, you can sign up for 6 months at a cost of £60 plus VAT. Obviously this is much better value, but realistically, you are in it for the much longer haul if you choose this option.  

It is worth noting that 4 The Win does come with a 30 day money back guarantee. This is something that is mentioned in the sales material, although it isn’t particularly well signposted. This money back guarantee is backed up by Clickbank who are generally pretty good at ensuring that this is honoured.  

What is the Rate of Return?

Now we come to the income potential, and that is an area where 4 The Win really does seemingly excel. Because Anthony Taylor tells us that in just 2 months, he has made a profit of £22,595.53. This amounts to a 5648.88 points profit using those £4 stakes. That is a mind-boggling number if I’m honest. It is easily 20 times what I would expect a decent tipster to make in a year. In 2 months.

The problem with judging the rate of return for something like 4 The Win is this. Whilst I am massively sceptical of Anthony Taylor’s claimed results. Even if I offered the full benefit of the doubt, how often can you really expect to see these kinds of results repeated? We are even told that there were 20 full days (about a month) without winners. And that is based on a scenario that is used to sell the service.  

Conclusion for 4 The Win

In theory, 4 The Win really does look like a winner. And it is very clear to me wherein the appeal of the service lies. Honestly, I don’t think it matters who you are. The thought of making some people’s annual salary in a few months is appealing. But the unfortunate fact of the matter is this. Even if Anthony Taylor actually achieved this (which I doubt), it is unlikely that you will achieve the same thing.

The nature of services like 4 The Win, as obvious as it may sound, is that they don’t win often. But those wins are more than enough to offset any losing period. I mean, if Anthony Taylor’s claimed profit is real, then he could easily afford to continue to bet for close to 16 years at the same rate, before he was back at square one. So, it makes sense to stick with it, right? Especially because you’re only really betting the cost of a fancy cup of coffee per day. 

But that is one of the biggest problems that I actually have here. You see, one of the things that I think is key to how 4 The Win is set up is the fact that you don’t win often. Now, when I talk about how it’s set up, I don’t necessarily mean in a way that is positive for the consumer. And this concern isn’t entirely unfounded.

Now, what is significant about all of this is that because 4 The Win is a service that inherently won’t win often, you can just put out whatever bets you want. You could literally thrown darts at a copy of the Racing Post. And the beauty of it is this. If a bet lands, you’re onto a winner. If it doesn’t, well, you’re betting on four fold accas. How often do you really think you’ll win?

All of this would be fine if you were dealing with a genuine tipster. You know, somebody who is providing more than a few months of “proofing” (if you can call it that). Or talks about how they are identifying selections. Or really, does anything to demonstrate any knowledge of horse racing. But that isn’t there, and that isn’t really a surprise to me.

You see, the vendor who is actually selling 4 The Win is one that is well known to me. And that really isn’t for the best of reasons (as is so often the case). This year alone, they have put out a good few tipster services. None of which performed well, and none of which are available any more. And not surprisingly, it seems to me that 4 The Win will go the same way.

Which allows me to circle back to the set up. You see, given the questionable nature of the previous products, and the frankly, questionable results that surround 4 The Win (as well as the lack of evidence and information), I see this only really going one way. You take up Anthony Taylor’s offer. For 30 days, you aren’t likely to win. Hell, let’s not forget that it’s been established that there were 20 losing betting days on the trot already. Once this period has elapsed, you unfortunately lose your claim to a refund.

All of that isn’t a coincidence in my eyes. And sure, I could be wrong. But I don’t really think that I am. And if I’m honest, when you look at 4 The Win in full context, I don’t really think that its even that cheap. £38 is a fair amount to shell out for something that is very unlikely to make you money.

As such, when you bring it all together, 4 The Win is simply a service that I couldn’t bring myself to recommend. Possibly the only justification is that incredibly remote chance of a large profit. But that is so unlikely that it simply isn’t enough that I could say it’s in any way worth the risk involved.  


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From: Simon Roberts