Big Odds Insider is a new to market horse racing tipster service that is operated by a tipster referred to simply as “The Insider”. We are told that he has made a massive amount of profit through betting.
Introduction to Big Odds Insider
One of the things that I always like to pontificate about when I see a new tipster service is this. What does the marketing say? Not necessarily what it clearly states, but who is it trying to speak to? Because there is almost a hidden language to marketing when it comes to tipsters services and betting systems. And there is one thing that I always look out for. And that is the million pound reference.
This is any reference to a tipster service making a million pound. Because this is about the biggest number people can believe. It also happens to be the number that The Insider claims that subscribers to his service, Big Odds Insider, are taking out of the bookies every single month. It’s an appealing thought isn’t it? And honestly, it is also the reason that I am sat here writing this. Because as much as I have questions, it is also hard to overlook.
Which means that Big Odds Insider is a very interesting thing really. Here you have a tipster service that on the surface is hugely successful. The Insider spins a good yarn, there is supposedly truck loads of money to be made, job done, right? Unfortunately, there is just so much that doesn’t sit right. Of course… I could be wrong… Let’s have a look and find out.
What Does Big Odds Insider Offer?
On paper, what The Insider is offering with Big Odds Insider is about as simple as it comes. His whole statement about how Big Odds Insider works is a six step outline, one of which is profit. Of course, this doesn’t really paint a picture of what you are actually getting into. You’ll find me referring to this a lot during this review, but what it really is, is a very canny bit of marketing.
The reality is that Big Odds Insider is a pretty straight forward horse racing tipster service. From what I have seen, you can expect bets most days. However, there is also the expectation that there will be no bet days. This is down to how The Insider operates his service, although frankly, one would probably expect more than I have seen.
I’ll come back to this, but for now, I want to stick with the experience of Big Odds Insider. As is very much industry standard these days ,selections are all issued directly via email. All that you have to do, we are told, is place those bets with a bookie of your choice. This is the first element of Big Odds Insider that is interesting to me.
You see, one of the things that The Insider talks about at length is ensuring that there is a long term future with his service. In fact, he gives (admittedly erroneous) advice on how to avoid getting your account flagged up by using “random bets (even if only small stakes)”. I’ll come back to this a little later on, but that won’t stop your account getting flagged.
The thing is, if everything that The Insider claims is true, then this will be difficult. And this is down to the nature of the bets. You see, the bets advised through Big Odds Insider are typically quite long odds horse racing tips. Now, this is supposedly down to how the service works in the background (a topic that I will be coming to soon).
If I were following this, I’d probably look to be using an odds comparison site. I know, it’s like I say that every time, but here it is definitely true. The fact is that The Insider doesn’t really provide a lot of insight with his emails. Combine this with the odds involved and I’d fully expect to not win often with Big Odds Insider. And as such, I would want all of my wins to count.
In terms of the volume of bets, you would very easily be forgiven for expecting Big Odds Insider to be particularly low. However, this doesn’t seem to be the case. There are seemingly 2 or more bets available a lot of the time. Which on any given day seems… Well, it’s a tad questionable given The Insider’s methodology.
The bets themselves appear to be straight win bets. All of which is very straight forward. It also means that at the very least, you shouldn’t have too much problem finding bookies to take those bets.
Now, I want to talk a little bit about the staking plan that is in place. Because honestly, it is very aggressive. The Insider recommends that if you want to maximise your profit from Big Odds Insider “you should be betting between 5% and 10% of your betting bank on each selection”. Those are some very big numbers.
But that isn’t where it ends either. Because The Insider also says that he may advise staking less than this on bets with longer odds. That’s arguably fair enough. But it is massively concerning to me that he also goes on to say that when Big Odds Insider has shorter odds you may be asked to stake even more than this.
The means that even just using the averages, your potential drawdown for Big Odds Insider on a given day is 40% of your betting bank. That is a hugely concerning number to me. Because whilst you don’t ever technically lose your betting bank, you can very easily decimate it to the point where recover is almost impossible.
Rather frustratingly, there is no mention of any strike rate. This is particularly important with something like Big Odds Insider. In no small part because of that risk and the potential drawdown.
How Does Big Odds Insider Work?
At the core of how Big Odds Insider works is something that honestly, I have seen a large number of time before now. Effectively, The Insider talks about how the whole horse racing industry is all fixed. Well, 50% of it is. Now, when he talks about races being fixed, what he actually means is the practice of owners and trainers grooming a horse for a certain race. To be fair, this is common practice.
From here, we are told that The Insider is able to get the inside scoop on when these horses are going to be put into races that they should be winning. This is supposedly down to a “vast circle of over 100 trainers, owners, jockeys, stable hands etc giving [The Insider] information”. That is a lot of people.
But why would they be giving The Insider this information exactly? Well, it all boils down to his claim that is a former jockey (which is also supposedly why his identity is kept a secret). Conveniently also something that cannot be proven or disproved. And that is something that is very much prevalent across all of Big Odds Insider.
Honestly, it isn’t even like The Insider provides any proofing or real evidence that you can look at for Big Odds Insider to gain an idea of what to expect in the longer term. I am of the opinion that none of this bodes well for the wider service.
What is the Initial Investment?
If you want to sign up to Big Odds Insider, there is just one option that is available. This is a one time cost of £47 (plus VAT) for which you get access to selections for a month. That is a lot of money. However, If this is “too much for you”, The Insider goes on to state “I’ll be blunt. This service isn’t for you!”. This is an interesting approach that I want to talk about later.
One of the few things that are unequivocally good about Big Odds Insider is the fact that there is a full 30 day money back guarantee. This is backed up by the fact that The Insider is selling access to his service though Clickbank. To be fair to him, it is commendable (and welcome) that this is pretty well advertised across the sales material as well.
What is the Rate of Return?
Way back at the start of this review, I was focusing on The Insider’s claim that his members are taking home over £1,000,000 per month. Of course, this all sounds well and good, but what exactly does it mean? Well, using the headlining numbers of member’s making “over £10,000 in a single week”, it means 25 people who are absolutely raking it in.
Except, I’m not entirely convinced that Big Odds Insider as a product is the best judge of all of this. Because the “real world” numbers just don’t add up. So, first things first, The Insider claims that over 2 weeks, Big Odds Insider was able to produce a profit of £12,750. Using the £300 stakes (and one bet which is randomly at £200) , this means 47.5 points in just a fortnight using level stakes. A lot of money in a short space of time, right?
But there’s the bottom line, I don’t even believe that these results can in any way, shape, or form be taken seriously. I talked earlier about a lack of proofing and evidence. Well, that claimed £12,750 profit is over several days. Which means that there also have to be at least some losing bets as well. And I can see no legitimate reason why The Insider wouldn’t talk about these results
Conclusion for Big Odds Insider
If there is one thing that The Insider is very good at, it is skipping over complexities. Information on a selection process? Can’t be discussed because The Insider is conveniently an ex jockey who’s network of informants would be compromised if his real name were to come out.
The profit all very conveniently adds up to that magic number of £1,000,000. But are 25 people really making £10,000 every single week? Well, the only person who would know that is The Insider. And it is just so convenient that he doesn’t actually provide any proofing for his claimed results.
In fact, the one bit of proofing that you do get for Big Odds Insider is just massively questionable. As I mentioned earlier, that £12,750 profit in 2 weeks is seemingly over 5 bets, over at least 4 days. Given that I don’t think I’ve ever seen a tipster service hit 100%, and the fact that this leaves at least 10 more betting days… Well, it’s all just a bit convenient.
For this result to be true The Insider would have to be a savant. But realistically, there are a lot of losing bets that would bring all of these numbers down. And that would be fine. I don’t think any genuine tipster is out there trying to say that 47.5 points to level stakes is attainable in just a few weeks. It just feels like with Big Odds Insider, we are only being shown a massively sanitised version of the service that fits a very questionable narrative.
Circling back to that point about Big Odds Insider skipping over complexities, let’s talk a little bit about The Insider’s methods of not getting an account flagged. This is seemingly a professional bettor. Who has supposedly taken, in just 2 weeks, £12,750 out of the bookies pockets. Let’s just offer the benefit of doubt for a second.
If this kind of profit were to be attained and withdrawn, your account would likely be shut down. Frankly though, all of that is based on the assumption that you even got that far without account restrictions shutting you down early. But The Insider helps you to get around it right? He talks about it in the sales material for Big Odds Insider!
Look, I’ll be blunt. If you think that placing a couple of random bets to small stakes, when you are consistently staking £300 on horse racing, the bookies are going to realise very quickly that you are following a tipster or system. If you happen to be winning, you will face account restrictions. I’ve seen it so many times.
And here’s the real kicker here for me. The Insider is a jockey. He has been involved in horse racing (and resultantly, betting) for a bloody long time. So he should know that this advice is bad. If you were really looking to maintain bookmaker accounts for any length of time, you’d want to be spreading your bets out as much as possible. Not just using one bookie and trying to “throw them off a pattern”. But even that offers no guarantees because of some very dodgy techniques that the bookies use.
Honestly, I could keep talking about the concerns I have surrounding Big Odds Insider. Because there are a hell of a lot of them. But at this point, I think I’ve adequately made my point. But there is one other consideration left to make here, and that is the idea of value for money.
Look, if The Insider was asking say, £20 for Big Odds Insider… Well, I still wouldn’t recommend it. But I can always see how some people might see a tipster service as being worth a bit of a punt at that kind of money. Even if you just bet on paper for a few weeks, £20 isn’t a huge amount of money by and large.
But that isn’t the case. Because Big Odds Insider is £47 for a month. And that makes it more expensive than some very genuine tipsters. Tipsters who, admittedly, aren’t claiming they can make you £10,000 per week, but have proven themselves capableof making a decent and consistent profit. I know where I’d rather invest my time and money.
The fact is that I just can’t really see a reason to recommend Big Odds Insider. It is expensive and it is massively questionable. Honestly, it’s been some time since I’ve looked at a tipster service that has been so transparently lacking in evidence, context, or even understanding of how betting actually works. This really is just one to avoid.
I was duped into signing for a months trial
AVOID at all cost!!!!!!!!!!!
The sites address is false and they will not answer their emails and there is no contact number available.
In a week they have sent 3 messages
First one was to say their pick was withdrawn
On Saturday they sent 2 tips first 1 finished last of 10 ,2nd finished last but one of 12.
They sent 2 tips Monday 1st finished last
Of 12 ,and the 2nd last but one of 14
They say that if you don’t make a profit they will refund you but you can’t contact them. It is a complete and total scam do not
Get involved. I can’t understand how they can get away with it everything about the site is lies.
Does anyone know who to contact to get these scumbags closed down?
ABSOLUTE SC*M. 2 EMAILS WITH 4 TIPS IN 22 DAYS. HARD TO ACTUALLY BE THIS BAD. HORSES FINISHED AS FOLLOWS :
7TH OF 7 RUNNERS
6TH OF 9
10TH OF 17
8TH OF 9
ENOUGH SAID.
I seem to be getting all the selections but the performance of the service has been poor
Thx again for the great advice. (Clickbank do the refunds – it’s best to put in requests direct to them btw) – although – even better – don’t go there if this site says not to! = he’s not fooled easy. A lot of tipsters are sending out emails recommending lot of tipsters and the emails forwarding saying “boastbank”
so theyre there to boost their bank accounts with the referrals. Would they need to do that if they were successful tipsters – prob not. I actually block anyone that shows that and unsubscribe form their lists. One way of cutting out the rubbish coming your way 🙂
Just had another hit my box High Odds Insider – sounds very similar to this one? 30 day trial £47
with an added note i quote: “if £47 is too much for you then i’ll be blunt. This service isn’t for you ”
Sounds very similar to this big odds insider. It is sold through click bank – says if after 30 days you’re not in profit i’ll refund you. Sounds VERY much like this one is the same – just a change of name Big odds – High odds… Umm!!!