Copy the Punter is a new to market horse racing tipster service which is offered by Daniel Taylor. He claims to be able to build a substantial profit through accumulator bets.
Introduction to Copy the Punter
There are a few services that I have seen in my time in this industry that I didn’t think would really make money. There just seemed to be too much risk involved, and yet, here I am and they are amongst some of the more profitable services that I have ever looked at (although I do stand by my analyses to some degree).
It seemed inevitable that somebody would jump on the band wagon eventually and that appears to have happened with Copy the Punter. Establishing his service based around infrequent big wins, Daniel Taylor makes some genuinely impressive claims about his selections. Can Copy the Punter deliver on these? Let’s see.
What Does Copy the Punter Offer?
Copy the Punter does a lot of things that you wouldn’t expect from the majority of tipster services. I will cover all of these over the course of this review, but what I will say is that there is one element Daniel Taylor doesn’t challenge the status quo.
The end customer experience is a very typical one. Selections are sent out directly to Copy the Punter subscribers on a daily basis, via email. These are typically sent around 10.30am (GMT) with Daniel Taylor saying that “you can use any bookmaker that allows you to place multiple type bets”.
Moving on to the bets themselves, there is a hell of a lot to talk about here. First things first, I want to talk about the types of bets that Daniel Taylor recommends through Copy the Punter. There are in fact 3 types of bets that will be advised, and as I have mentioned, these are accumulator bets. Each day, subscribers will receive a Treble, a Five Fold Accumulator, and a Lucky 15 bet.
This of course means that there are ultimately just 3 bets that you are placing on a given day making Copy the Punter a very manageable service in terms of the volume. The kind of bets that Daniel Taylor advises have a variety of odds across individual horses, however, it should go without saying that the accumulators themselves are rather long shots.
The kind of betting that Daniel Taylor uses for Copy the Punter requires a very strict staking system as you can very easily burn through your betting bank.
This is here to some degree however it also feels somewhat esoteric with Daniel Taylor recommending that you stake 0.7% of your betting bank on each given bet. This means 0.3% on the Treble, 0.3% on the Lucky 15, and 0.1% on the Five Fold. All of this is backed up by a recommended 100 point betting bank for Copy the Punter.
Naturally you wouldn’t expect to be winning on a daily basis if you were following Daniel Taylor’s selections and this is acknowledged in the sales material for Copy the Punter. We are actually told “this is a HIGH return low strike-rate service”. What isn’t discussed however is just how know the strike rate is.
Personally, I am expecting very little in this regard and it does set up some concerning wider points for Copy the Punter that I want to get to a little later on. It is also of note that there is no proofing that you can look at to determine these kinds of things either.
How Does Copy the Punter Work?
In terms of how Copy the Punter supposedly works, I have some very mixed feelings. Daniel Taylor says that ultimately, his service is based on the selections of over 50 different tipster services. He says that he scours their selections looking for “standout selections”.
These are claimed to typically be when “many in-form tipsters [are] selecting a similar horse”. This is only one element of Copy the Punter however. In fact, Daniel Taylor says that he has to agree with their findings, suggesting that there is some other research that goes into selections. There is nothing that really backs this claim up however.
It would be remiss of me to not talk about the more obvious factor which are the long shot bets. The idea here is more apparent in so much as Daniel Taylor is claiming that you don’t have to bet a lot to win a lot.
When you do win, you remain in profit for such a long time that it is very difficult to lose money (at least in theory). This is a method that I have seen employed in services other than Copy the Punter with success, however I definitely have questions about its effectiveness here.
What is the Initial Investment?
Daniel Taylor tries to say that the real value of Copy the Punter should be £39.95 per month. Instead, at the time of writing you are told that you can buy access to 60 days of selections for a one time fee of just £15.98. This is supposedly an 80% reduction on the “actual” value of £79.90 for this period.
I should highlight that I am somewhat sceptical of these claims, as I am about the claim that this offer is only available to a limited number people, and even then, for a limited period of time.
It is worth noting that Copy the Punter is available with a full 30 day money back guarantee in place for the service. This is backed up by the fact that Daniel Taylor is selling the product through Clickbank.
What is the Rate of Return?
Naturally the reason that we are all here is to make a profit, and if you believe Daniel Taylor, then there are massive amounts of this to be had. Given that you are staking just 0.7 points, you could well see an overall profit of some 73.4 points in just one day, including a 650/1 winner on a five fold. There is just one example of these bets winning however and honestly, I wouldn’t expect this kind of result often, if at all.
Conclusion on Copy the Punter
When it comes to betting, there are no right or wrong answers. Some people would say that as long as there is money being made, it doesn’t matter what the approach is. That profit is profit, and to some degree this might be true.
In the case of Copy the Punter though, I don’t see this as a service that will suit a lot of people. There are a number of reasons for this, some of which are down to the limitations of the strategy that Daniel Taylor utilises. Other reasons are more questionable and less apparent but I will get to those elements of Copy the Punter later.
First things first, I want to talk about the approach of the service. I can appreciate the notion that you don’t have to win often when there are such long odds, but this kind of betting requires an enormous amount of discipline and despite the lower stakes that are involved, your betting bank can still take a beating.
This applies particularly in the case of any service where there doesn’t appear to be any real selection process in place, as is the case with Copy the Punter.
Moving away from that, you have other elements at play that concern me that are more about Copy the Punter directly than the way it is run. First things first, I feel like there is an extraordinary lack of evidence about what you can expect from the service. In and of itself, this is a problem, but when you combine it with a service that explicitly has long losing streaks, it is only reasonable that you can gauge these properly.
The nail in the coffin stems from the fact that whilst Daniel Taylor claims to be behind the service, I am actually familiar with the vendor who is selling this on Clickbank.
They put out new products on a consistent basis and I don’t believe that I have ever seen one make any real profit in the longer term. This is bad enough when you are betting on horses that at least have an outside chance of winning but when you combine it with accumulators, it just ramps up the risk factor.
With this in mind, I don’t believe that I would really recommend Copy the Punter. There are some reasonable enough principles at play in terms of what you can expect from the service, but for my money, this remains one of the riskier and more questionable services I have seen for some time.