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Dutch Master Review Ray Morris

Dutch Master is a new to market horse racing tipster service which is being offered by one Ray Morris. He claims to have produced some very strong results through his betting approach.  

Introduction to Dutch Master

There are a lot of different approaches to betting, but what I will always champion personally, is as low a risk as possible. Even within the many approaches towards betting, there are a massive number of different ways that you can look at low risk betting. Todays subject, Dutch Master (as the name implies), deals with dutching.

Now, I will go into a little more detail on this later, but the principals of dutching are quite simple. Back multiple horses in a race, you have more chance of winning. It makes a certain kind of sense when you put it that bluntly.

The truth of the matter though is finding races where you have horses with a decent chance to win a race, as well as having odds that are long enough to ensure that you are guaranteed a profit, whichever of them wins. Well, that takes a lot of skill. Skill that Ray Morris supposedly has. So, let’s have a look and see whether or not Dutch Master can actually deliver.  

What Does Dutch Master Offer?

There is quite a lot that is interesting about Dutch Master. I think that is a more than fair statement to make, and Ray Morris has something of a unique viewpoint on betting. I will come to this later when I look at how the service works. Suffice to say though, I am quite intrigued by what is seemingly on offer.

Now, in terms of the logistics, well, things don’t tend to differ too much from one tipster service to another. None the less, it is a very important part of what you are actually paying for. In this case, it means receiving selections six days out of the week, with the occasional no bet day in the mix.

Selections are issued Monday through Saturday and, as you would probably expect, they are sent directly out to subscribers via email. You can expect to receive Ray Morris’s tips on the morning of racing, however there is little structure in terms of the timing. This is so that all of the days races can be looked at and considered.

In terms of the bets that you can expect to receive if you are signed up to Dutch Master, well, this is where things start to get interesting. Each day you can expect a maximum of four races that you will be betting on. Honestly, this seems to be rather arbitrary with no reason why Ray Morris stops there.

These four races involve backing two horses per race, as you would expect from a dutching based service. What is interesting though is that Dutch Master involves backing those horses each way. This is pretty unusual, however, Ray Morris says that it allows you to help minimise the risk. In that regard, it makes a certain kind of sense.

Now, if you are backing horses each way, you need some decent odds in order for Dutch Master to be profitable. Fortunately, Ray Morris exclusively backs horses that have odds of a minimum of 10/1 (often backing much higher at odds of 33/1 and above). This is so that as long as one of the horses places, you are guaranteed a profit of 1 point on your bet.

For those of you who aren’t keeping track of all this, it does mean that Dutch Master is starting to get potentially quite expensive. Four races, backing two horses per race, on an each way bet means effectively betting 16 points per day, and that is exactly what Ray Morris recommends.

In spite of this relatively high number of bets being placed per day, we are told that you should only need a 70 point starting bank. That simply doesn’t seem like enough for me. At maximum capacity, you would burn through your betting bank in 4 days (with 6 points left).

There is no getting around the fact that those numbers are worryingly high. After all, Dutch Master goes out of its way to back horses at incredibly long odds. For my money, this somewhat starts to negate the benefits that dutching can bring to the table.

If you were going to follow Ray Morris’s betting advice, I would probably look to double that betting bank, just to make sure that you have ample money to cover any losing streaks. Now, all of this doesn’t matter if Dutch Master is identifying winning bets day in day out, but it doesn’t seem to be.

Whilst there are many things about Dutch Master that are frustrating, one of the more prominent examples in my opinion is the distinctive lack of any proofing or realistic claim of how often you can expect to win.

All that we are really told is that in the 22 days that Ray Morris actually talks about, he says that 11 days have produced a profit. In theory, this means a strike rate of 50%, but honestly, I don’t believe that you can realistically expect this for a longer term. Especially when you factor in that these results for Dutch Master are likely to be cherry picked as the best examples.

How Does Dutch Master Work?

In terms of how Dutch Master works, there are two different key elements (arguably 3, but I will get to that). The first one is quite obvious and that is in the dutching approach. That is a tried and tested method that I have seen work for other people before.

It does however take an approach that requires a lot of effort to really make work and a good understanding of horse racing and what it means to obtain value from a selection. This is what concerns me in terms of Ray Morris.

See, he doesn’t actually talk about the second element of Dutch Master, which is the selection process itself. There is a lot of talk about dutching, as well as that arguable third element (that I will get to shortly), but nothing about finding horses.

This is very worrisome in my opinion. Given the high odds that are involved and the small betting bank, I would want to know that the tipster advising me knows exactly what they are doing. You simply don’t get evidence of that with Dutch Master and that is a problem.

The final (sort of) element is based around backing horses at longer odds. Ray Morris’s method of betting seems to be quite reliant on big winners coming in in order to maintain any profit. I have seen this kind of thing employed elsewhere successfully, however these services have always been fully proofed.

Sure, there is an argument to be made that one horse winning guarantees you a point of profit. As mentioned, Ray Morris is keen to mention this in the sales material for Dutch Master, but if you are losing 16 in a day, that 1 point is a drop in the ocean.  

What is the Initial Investment?

At the time of writing, there is just one option which is available if you want to subscribe to Dutch Master. This is a one time cost of £30 (plus VAT). For this, Ray Morris says that he will provide you with selections for 6 weeks on a trial basis. There is however no mention of what you can expect to pay past this trial.

It is worth noting that Ray Morris is selling Dutch Master through Clickbank which means that there is a full 60 day money back guarantee in place, should you find that the service ultimately isn’t for you.

What is the Rate of Return?

We are told that in just 25 days, Dutch Master was able to produce a profit of £5,388 to just £10 stakes. That’s a mindbogglingly strong figure of 538.8 points of profit in less than a month. I know for a fact that there are tipsters out there that would be more than happy with half of this profit over the course of the year.

On top of this, we are told that there were an additional 28 points of profit generated in a single day not long after Dutch Master launched. Now, all of this sound well and good, and there are some questionable screenshots backing these claims up. What there isn’t however is any real proofing for longer term results.  

Conclusion for Dutch Master

Dutching can work. It can also work very well. Whether or not Dutch Master can work, and work very well. That’s a completely different kettle of fish. In theory, I will admit that I kind of like what Ray Morris is doing.

By combining one well established approach with another (backing value horses at longer odds), it just makes sense that you can make money here. I love things like this that “just make sense”. With that having been said, there remain some concerns in my opinion when it comes to the service.

First things first, I want to return to the topic of risk. I said that dutching should be seen as a low risk strategy and I entirely stand by that fact. Cancelling some of that out by backing long odds, even on an each way basis, is a bold move. And in the right hands, I could potentially see this catching on.

The problem that I really have here is that I don’t see enough from Ray Morris to convince me that he is that right set of hands. I talk a lot about evidence and it is something that cannot be overlooked. Whilst there are a handful of screenshots of winning bets, there isn’t anything that shows losses, or any particularly large sample of data that you can draw upon.

Furthermore, Ray Morris isn’t exactly forthcoming about how he finds value selections for Dutch Master. Those are both pretty big problems in my book. The fact of the matter is that those claimed results just don’t seem believable to me. We are always told if something seems too good to be true, it probably is and I think this really applies here.

The fact of the matter is that when I look at Dutch Master, what I really see is a rather convoluted example of a pretty sound looking theory that actually carries a lot of risk. As mentioned, if you get four maximum bet days losing on the trot, you can kiss your betting bank goodbye. And the truth is that 33/1 horses just don’t win that often.

Even the argument that backing them each way makes up for this doesn’t hold much water. The sheer volume of bets and the stakes involved mean that if losing days will require a lot of work to get Dutch Master back into profit. And whilst a claimed 50% strike rate (ish, depending on how you look at it) seems like a counter to this, (and I hate to sound like a stuck record) but where’s the evidence.

Personally, I don’t see anything here that I would recommend. My gut feeling is that Ray Morris (or more realistically, an internet marketer behind the service), had identified a few words that sound good to the layperson. Investigate them and it sounds even better. What I don’t believe is that it can actually deliver.

With evidence backing up the claims, I may recommend Dutch Master as worth a punt given the price. But as it is, I can’t help but feel like you will just be paying £30 for a service that isn’t likely to work. And spending not a lot of money on something rubbish is still getting something rubbish.  


Comments (1)

Hi I’ve been using Ray Moris’s Dutch Master for a month now and you have pretty much hit the nail on the head. It was profitable at first but then it started eating into my bank due to the losing streak. Now I’m realistic and knew that there would be losing streaks. However even with half the recommended stake i.e £5 each way = £10, I wasn’t winning enough to sustain it after losing many times.
One thing to add to the frustration is that sometimes (twice so far) I receive old tips from past days. I emailed them to be more careful but no reply whatsoever let alone the correct or revised tips for that day. And sometimes tips email comes in really close, about half 12 for the race stating at 1.30 which is too close for the comfort and good stable odds.
Overall, I’m getting a refund before 60days guarantee runs out.
I have a spreadsheet which I’m willing to share if anyone’s interested.

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