Extreme Tipster is a new to market horse racing tipster service that is operated by one Tim Jones. He claims to have turned his life around through betting in 12 months, and now, he is ready to share his tips.
Introduction to Extreme Tipster
There’s a lot to be said about the name that a tipster chooses to use to market their service in my opinion. And in using the word “extreme”, Tim Jones definitely makes for one of the more interesting ones that I’ve seen before. Because extreme is a word that can have some very positive or negative connotations depending on who you are.
I have never really hidden the fact that I am by and large, somewhat prudent when it comes to betting. And as such, I will be open about the fact that the idea of an “Extreme Tipster” doesn’t sound very appealing to me. With that said, Tim Jones is making some very strong claims about the longevity of his selections as well as the profit potential.
So, there is supposedly quite a lot involved with Extreme Tipster, quite a lot of which is somewhat contradictory. This represents a very interesting product that Tim Jones is offering, and not surprisingly, I am quite keen to see which of the claimed elements are genuine, and which are… Shall we say embellished.
What Does Extreme Tipster Offer?
The sales page for Extreme Tipster is rather… Shall we say, dense. There is a lot to process there, however rather disappointingly, not all of it contains information that is, shall we say, pertinent. As such, this makes it rather difficult to really know where to begin. Although, I feel that Tim Jones’s claim of being “financially free without ever having to work a minute” is a good place.
His is a rather bold claim for a tipster service to make which is both relatively low volume, and involves frankly very middling odds. But I’m probably getting a bit ahead of myself here. Because at its core, Extreme Tipster is a very straight forward thing.
The bets themselves (at least from what I have seen so far), are all straight win bets. This is at least one small positive as it allows you to quickly and easily place bets, and they are accepted at pretty much all bookmakers. So, I guess that’s at least one positive that you can take away from Extreme Tipster.
Now, as you would expect from a modern day tipster service, selections are sent out to subscribers directly via email. These are typically issued on the morning of racing; however you shouldn’t really expect them early. This does count against Extreme Tipster a little in my book as you potentially miss out on better odds, but it also restricts the user base.
The quality of these emails isn’t anything exceptional either. You get enough information to get bets placed, but you are taking the bare minimum. It is also note worthy that you may struggle to get the odds that are mentioned. And when you factor in that you aren’t necessarily dealing with long odds (maxing out at 7/1) to begin with, this isn’t ideal.
As such, Oddschecker will serve you well with Extreme Tipster. The fact is that when you only get 3 bets per day, squeezing out an extra half point of profit on every winning bet can help hugely when it comes to the longer term profits.
I feel like this is particularly important when you think about the fact that there are just 3 bets per day. This means that there is an inherent limit on how much you can potentially earn. With that said, 3 bets per day does mean that at least Tim Jones is keeping Extreme Tipster within manageable parameters. This is more than can be said for some tipsters which will put out 10 plus bets per day.
It should go without saying that this relatively low risk approach to betting does come with some positives. For example, there is no denying the fact that it is much easier to manage your betting bank here’s the when you know exactly how far you will be extending yourself.
With that said, it is equally important to factor in that this low risk approach is paired with a sensible staking plan. And unfortunately, in the case of Extreme Tipster, there is no staking plan at all, let alone one that could be viewed as being sensible. Personally, I find this to be somewhat off putting.
Here’s the thing. Tim Jones is really keen to bang on about how much financial freedom Extreme Tipster will give you. But with no staking plan, all of the claims that he makes are pretty much rendered moot. What use are income claims without context? And how much would you need to reasonably set aside to bet? These are exactly the kinds of things that reputable tipsters will talk about.
If it were me betting along with Extreme Tipster, I would anticipate a 100 point betting bank and level stakes of 1 point. This is enough to ensure that you would have change, even following a month where no bets won at all. Not that this is like to happen (because everybody can get lucky), but…
Bluntly, there is no proofing for Extreme Tipster, nor are there any claims for the strike rate. This means that realistically, you have very little way of gauging what to expect from the service in the future. It also lends to the problem of staking, as there is little way of gauging how much you have to set aside.
How Does Extreme Tipster Work?
Given the wall of text that makes up the sales material for Extreme Tipster, you would be forgiven for thinking that Tim Jones is willing to talk a lot about what his selection process. Instead, there is a disappointing lack of information provided.
Tim Jones loves to talk about his rags to riches story. He talks about going from a family, to being homeless, depressed, and “dead-broke”. Interestingly, despite hitting this rock bottom, we are told that this also provide him with the freedom to “make something out of nothing”. Which somehow equates to spending his time in William Hill.
Now, just as a little aside here, if you find yourself homeless and destitute, about the worst thing that you can do is head into the bookies to find a betting system that works for you. This might seem obvious, but honestly, it concerns me greatly that Extreme Tipster is being sold off the back of this idea.
So, Tim Jones supposedly managed to find something that worked for him, a system referred to as “an exclusive system which does not fail to work”. Unfortunately, what we aren’t told is what this system is really based on. Instead, Tim Jones appears to be much more concerned with driving his narrative of going from nothing to something.
When this is combined with that very distinctive lack of proofing, it makes for a product that really, you have no way of knowing what you are getting yourself into. Nothing I have seen points towards the claims made being realistic, and with no way of understanding the approach of Extreme Tipster, this all counts as a very substantial negative.
What is the Initial Investment?
There are a few different options when it comes to paying for Extreme Tipster, and I’ll be entirely honest with you. The set up that Tim Jones utilises concerns me hugely. The first option that is available is a 12 month subscription. This is priced at £99 plus VAT with payment being handled through Clickbank. This comes with a 30 day money back guarantee which at least Tim Jones mentions.
The next option provides a substantial discount with the 12 months costing just £39.40. However, payment is handled directly through Extreme Tipster. There is also a monthly option here which is priced at £9.95 per month.
This comes with the following caveat:
“I forfeit the rights to a Money-Back Guarantee, eliminating ClickBank allows me to avoid transactional fees and benefit from additional payment options and discounts.”
What is the Rate of Return?
There are a few different numbers that are mentioned when it comes to Extreme Tipster. The one that is featured in the headline and is undeniably the more significant figure is that of making £30,000 per annum. It is important to note when you consider this number that Tim Jones doesn’t actually provide any proofing for the service.
Without that, there is very little way of realistically translating these numbers into anything tangible. That is yet another big problem for me. This is also applicable to the various other income claims that are made, ranging from the “£2,500 monthly salary” to the so called testimonials which claim to have made a betting bank £1,900 in 6 weeks (with no details of the starting point).
Conclusion for Extreme Tipster
I know that I am sometimes very cynical when it comes to tipster services, but I can say with the utmost confidence that I would love nothing more than to find something like Extreme Tipster, but that actually works. Which does pretty much sum up where I’m going with this conclusion, but I feel it is important to frame my opinions.
Now, there are a lot of problems that I have. Some of these are incredibly obvious, others are much less apparent. However, the fact that they exist in the background of Extreme Tipster doesn’t mean that they are any less important. In fact, I would be inclined to say that they are more important than the more obvious problems.
But starting with those obvious things. First of all, there is absolutely no information provided about what the selection process entails. That is more than a little bit worrying for me. Especially when the focus of the marketing is clearly on a narrative which isn’t just unbelievable, but honestly just downright irresponsible.
Secondly is the much more obvious issue which is that point about the income potential. Whilst Tim Jones does a good job of making everything seem relatively believable (making more than £30,000 per year through betting isn’t entirely out of the question). But without context, staking, and/or proofing, I see no reason to believe any of these results.
Especially for a tipster who operates the way that he does on the pricing element. Look, I don’t expect every tipster service out there to be using Clickbank and providing 60 day money back guarantees. In fact, some of the best services that I have looked at haven’t.
But if you are going to try and spin some BS narrative with no real evidence into a tipster service, you can at least offer people an opportunity to trial it at a fair price. I don’t believe that this is the case here.
In fact, my belief is that Extreme Tipster has been created this way because the vendor who is selling the service through Clickbank probably gets more than his (or her) fair share of refunds. The name is well known to me for putting out less than stellar services and they give no reason to believe that Extreme Tipster will be any different.
What’s the best way around this? Offer your service for a massive discount, at the cost of your consumer rights. That just seems like incredibly questionable practice to me, and honestly, even if the rest of Extreme Tipster was smashing it out of the park this would give me pause for thought.
So, with all of this in mind, there isn’t a single element here that I would look to recommend. I don’t really believe that Extreme Tipster is a genuine product, and I certainly don’t believe that you will make money with it. Combine this with that incredibly sketchy pricing and you have a service that requires a very wide berth.