Flat Whispers is a tipster service which is being offered by Jack Palmer through WAP Tipsters. It claims to have some very respectable profits with seemingly little risk.
Introduction to Flat Whispers
One of the things that I often find interesting about tipster services, especially those that cover a multitude of disciplines, is how can these be maintained long term? For example, horse racing has Flat Racing, National Hunt, All Weather, and whilst fundamentally these are all similar, most punters will tell you that there are massive differences in what to expect.
For example, speed ratings may be great on a flat race, but these things are less applicable when horses are jumping. Now I know that some tipsters do manage this, but I am always keen to see what can happen with a focussed approach which brings me immediately to the subject of todays review.
Flat Whispers is a specialist tipster service that, as the name suggests, deals exclusively with flat racing over the summer season. Is it worth following though? Let’s have a look and see whether Jack Palmer can deliver.
What Does Flat Whispers Offer?
From what I have seen so far, I am quite impressed with Flat Whispers, in so much as Jack Palmer doesn’t seem to take the usual approach with his service. For reasons that I will cover later, this is in part down to how the service works, but the fact that the way it operates ties into this is a strong early positive. So, what do you get exactly? Selections are issued on a pretty much daily basis.
Every evening (typically between 7pm and 10pm) Jack Palmer sends out an email to Flat Whispers subscribers with details of selections for the next days racing. On top of this, you will also receive an email around mid morning which contains late info that may be worth following up.
Logistically, this makes Flat Whispers stand out from the crowd and that isn’t a bad thing. In terms of the bets themselves, this is a much more straight forward affair. Typically speaking, Jack Palmer says that you will receive 2 or 3 selections on a given day. This number can get as high as 5 bets on busier days and during festivals.
There are a range of odds involved with Flat Whispers starting at around 2.00 going well into double digits on occasion. It is worth noting that the bets are made up of a combination of win and each way bets (as well as the occasional smaller accumulator). Whilst this does arguably add a degree of complexity to Flat Whispers, you still shouldn’t have any problems with getting bets placed etc.
WAP Tipsters proof Flat Whispers to level stakes of 1 point per bet (meaning 0.5 points each way), and this is a very valid way of staking if you are following Flat Whispers. In fact, the sales material boasts of the profit that has been made to level stakes.
However, there is also a specialist staking plan that is available when you sign up for the service. This is somewhat more detailed and has a chance to drastically improve the profits that you generate with Flat Whispers, however, as you would expect, it does make things slightly more complicated.
Finally, I want to talk about the strike rate.
How often you can expect to win with a tipster service is a very important thing and WAP Tipsters apparently have some solid figures here.
Given that the average odds for selections stand at 6/1, you would probably expect quite a low figure however the sales material for Flat Whispers claims a strike rate in excess of 30%. Looking at the proofing I have calculated a number that is in excess of 35% which is very respectable given Flat Whispers as a wider service.
How Does Flat Whispers Work?
There is a significant amount of information provided in terms of how Flat Whispers works. WAP Tipsters say that Jack Palmer used to run an online racing forum that was dedicated to horse racing.
As a result of this, he started to attend race meetings where he “met some really big players in the game”. He has supposedly stayed in touch with them over the years and so now, he is given inside information. Fundamentally, this is what Flat Whispers is built on.
As well as this inside information from “big players”, WAP Tipsters also claim that Jack Palmer has a contact who works in a trading room for a “big well-known bookie”. This person contacts him each morning with information on “who’s backing what and how big their actual wagers are”. This is where the morning selections come into play with Flat Whispers.
What is the Initial Investment?
There are three options available if you want to subscribe to Flat Whispers. The first of these is a monthly subscription which is priced at £38 per month. Alternatively, you can sign up to the service on a quarterly basis which is priced at £78 per period.
Finally, you can sign up to Flat Whispers for the whole flat season for a cost of £85. If you choose to sign up on a monthly basis, it is worth noting that your first month is available at a discounted rate of £19. It is worth noting however that there is no mention of any money back guarantee or refund policy mentioned by WAP Tipsters and as such, I wouldn’t expect anything like this.
What is the Rate of Return?
Since it launched, Flat Whispers has produced an overall profit of 227.90 points. Whilst this looks like a decent amount of profit, it is worth keeping in mind that this has been generated over some 2 years.
Means that the actual profits come out at around 110 points per year. Now, this isn’t necessarily a terrible result, however, there are definitely more profitable tipster services available based off this metric. Providing slightly better context for these results is the claimed ROI of “over 36%”.
Conclusion on FlatWhispers
It isn’t very often in this line of work that I find something that can even vaguely be described as being new to me, but WAP Tipsters are just that.
The first thing of theirs that I have been asked to look at however, is not such a new thing. Betting on certain racing disciplines is a well known approach that I know can be quite successful in the long term. That is a very good thing, but why is it the case?
As I have touched upon here already, and as I have expanded on elsewhere, I believe that one of the best ways to consistently beat a bookmaker is to know more than them.
This sounds straight forward, but honestly, it is a great deal more complicated than that. However, it can be done, and the way to achieve this is to focus on a niche, and that is exactly what Jack Palmer has done. Combine this with what appears to be a strong network and you have something that undoubtedly has bags of potential as far as “knowing more” than the bookies goes.
Now, I will admit that I am always slightly sceptical when a tipster brings out the old “inside information” card. It’s something that sounds hugely impressive, cannot really be substantiated, and is a bit of a blank canvas for BS.
What makes me think that there may be some truth to Flat Whispers however, are the results. Not so much the overall profit and loss (which is arguably unexceptional), but the strike rate, the odds that are involved. They definitely have a suggestion of knowing more than the bookies at least.
This really only leaves the question of value to be raised and this is a bit of a double edged sword. For what you are getting, the monthly subscription fee is quite a lot given the restrictions that exist on the profit and loss front. With that having been said, the fact that you can get the full season for only a shade more than 2 months represents a much better looking product for the money.
So, with all of this in mind, is Flat Whispers something that I would actively recommend?
The short answer is a bit of a cop out really, as it ultimately depends on what you are looking for from a service. If you are looking for big winners, then this isn’t going to be for you.
But as far as tipsters go, Jack Palmer has shown a canny knack for consistency so far and if the ROI can remain where WAP Tipsters claim, then Flat Whispers does start to look like quite a strong option.