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Football Profit Machine Review

Football Profit Machine is a relatively new to market sports betting tipster service that is operated by James Elliot. It takes a rather unique approach to tipping and isn’t quite like any other football tipster service I’ve seen before.

Introduction to Football Profit Machine

When it comes to the tipster industry, innovation and being genuinely different whilst actually adding worth is a difficult thing. Sure, you’ll see plenty of tipster services come along that involves doing something new. Anybody can do that. In fact, I probably see several tipsters a month who say that they are doing something different or unique. But unique or different isn’t always a good thing. In fact, it can sometimes end up overcomplicating something that should be relatively simple.

All of this means that when I see a service that offers something new and adds value you can rest assured that it will always pique some interest from me. In the case of today’s review subject, Football Profit Machine, it also brings some excitement. You see, this isn’t just doing something new and interesting, but James Elliot is also seemingly bringing some decent looking profits with it as well. In fact, if you believe the claims made in the sales material, he has made an incredibly substantial return.

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So, we can start wrapping this one up, right? A fantastic looking service that has produced a lot of profits. Well… I’m not necessarily certain that this is the case here. Whilst Football Profit Machine is an undoubtedly impressive service and James Elliot has indeed produced a profit of some kind. I’m not all that convinced that everything here is actually quite as straight forward as it is made out to be. What exactly do I mean by this? Well, let’s get into it and have a proper look at it all.  

What Does Football Profit Machine Offer?

When you talk about what the offering for Football Profit Machine actually is, the place that you inevitably have to start is how the service is different. Because the structure that James Elliot has in place is so different when you compare it to other football tipsters that are currently on the market. The main place that this is so apparent is in what you actually receive.

Normally when it comes to football tips in particular, you get minimal information. Because of the fact that most tipsters aren’t betting through the week and have a focus on certain leagues and tournaments, you often end up with lots of bets at a time. As such, the most efficient way to present the information is by providing what you need and little more. Football Profit Machine is the complete antithesis of this.

When you sign up to receive tips for Football Profit Machine, you are really getting access to incredibly detailed reports on a game. These cover a variety of topics including key match and team stats summaries, there is a section on the markets considered, match odds, and what James Elliot refers to as “the entry point”. This is effectively the tip itself.

As you might expect from any modern tipster service, selections are issued directly via email, all that you have to do ultimately, is place the bets advised at the minimum odds. An odds comparison site will help you to maximise your profit potential (something that I would recommend for reasons that will become apparent soon). Fortunately, because of the timing when James Elliot issues his advice to Football Profit Machine subscribers, this is very doable.

But what bets will you actually be placing? Well, there is a significant variety, and personally, I see this as a good thing. It suggests that James Elliot is really doing his best to find value in bets for Football Profit Machine subscribers. Mostly though, you will be simply backing a team at Match Odds. There are a few goals markets covered as well. Where the variety shines in my eyes though are the variety of games that you bet on.

Football Profit Machine has shown itself in the proofing to cover things like the Champions and Europa Leagues, various tiers of domestic leagues and cups, and a number of top flight European leagues and cups. This allows for some arguably more niche bets, and as a result, occasionally, better odds being available.

What I will say though is that you should probably try and keep your expectations at least a little bit tempered in this regard. At the end of the day, Football Profit Machine is still concerned with football betting and there are inherent limits to the kinds of odds that you tend to see, especially from the bigger bookies. For some context on all of this, the average odds for James Elliot’s tips stands at just 2.27. Not a huge amount at all.

This only leaves the numbers side of things to talk about, and this is where Football Profit Machine starts to show at least some cracks with the service in my mind. Not all of it. The strike rate of 56% combined with the average odds looks like an absolute winner. It stands to reason that if these numbers persist, there will be long term profit.  But not surprisingly, that isn’t what concerns me.

You see, Football Profit Machine involves betting to rather large stakes. Most bets come in at 3 points stakes. This is pretty accurately reflected in the average of 3.1 points per bet. However, you are ultimately betting as much as 4 points on bets. Whilst the lower volume makes this somewhat justifiable, there is no denying that it has a drastic effect on the measure of James Elliot’s results. And that does become a bit of an issue as I will discuss later on.

This ultimately means that you need quite a reasonable sized betting bank. Furthermore, James Elliot also recommends leveraging a compounded staking plan for Football Profit Machine. Whilst reinvesting your winnings isn’t necessarily the worst idea, when you talk in pounds and pence and you’re betting at 3 points on a bet… well, it can make things especially intimidating.

How Does Football Profit Machine Work?

James Elliot says that he as a professional trader who is currently based out of Odessa in the Ukraine. He says that he started his career as an Index Analyst at FTSE and has consulted for 15 years at financial institutions and investment banks around the world. He also talks about how he specialises in financial instruments, pricing data, trading platforms, and risk management solutions. He has been trading sports markets, we are told, since early 2000.

This is all quite important in giving us some background for Football Profit Machine. I mean, the fact of the matter is that in terms of how the service “works”, it is all incredibly simple. James Elliot is quite literally telling you why you should be placing a given bet. Furthermore, he is doing so in great detail. You don’t get much better in terms of understanding how something “works”.

But that first part is still quite important. You see, whilst I appreciate the analysis that James Elliot does give, the fact is that Football Profit Machine appears to be based on relatively straightforward numerical applications. Team A has scored more than Team B. Team B has lost at home a lot, Team A have won away from home a lot. That sort of thing. Combine that with the background in trading and analysis and you seemingly have a good match.

Combine all of that with the fact that there is some incredibly comprehensive proofing and it makes for a tipster service that is relatively transparent about what you are getting into. This is all pretty positive from a consumer point of view as you can make some relatively informed decisions. And that is exactly what you need to be able to do with Football Profit Machine. Be informed.  

What is the Initial Investment?

There are three different options if you want to sign up to Football Profit Machine. These all vary quite a lot in terms of the value on offer and the costs involved. The cheapest option is a monthly subscription. This costs you £20 for your first month, after which the cost goes up to £40 per month.

If you are looking for better value, you can get access to Football Profit Machine for a cost of £39 for your first quarter. Once this has elapsed, the cost doubles once again to £78. The best value option is a non-recurring payment of £89. This gives you full access to James Elliot’s tips for a full 6 months. Whilst this is definitely the priciest option overall, it works out at less than £15 per month.

Whichever option you choose it is quite important to keep in mind that Football Profit Machine doesn’t come with any sort of money back guarantee. The service is being operated through The Bet Professionals, a firm that don’t offer this on any of their services.  

What is the Rate of Return?

Now we come to the single most important part of any tipster service. Namely, how much money it has made. This is also where things start to fall down a little bit in my opinion. You see, the proofing says that using “Flat Stakes” Football Profit Machine is at a profit of a shade over 101 points at the time of writing. For 8 months in, that isn’t necessarily terrible. But here’s the thing, that number doesn’t actually seem to be “flat stakes”.

In actual fact, if you use the average stakes of 3.1 points to scale Football Profit Machine down to flat stakes of 1 point per bet, the number drops very substantially to just 33.77 points in 8 months. Now, there is some argument to be had that this isn’t a fair statement. However, I am a firm believer that this is the best way to put results into context. That way everything is equal. This kind of thinking doesn’t however, alter the ROI. At 18%, this isn’t too terrible at all.

Conclusion for Football Profit Machine

To be clear, I think that Football Profit Machine is a good looking service. The approach that James Elliot takes is something that is pretty unique in terms of football betting. I’ve seen it used plenty with horse racing, but the idea of daily reports with extensive coverage of a given football game is very interesting. And for me, that is mostly down to one single element.

You see, I want to talk a little bit about maximising the use of Football Profit Machine. Ultimately, you are only getting one tip per day from James Elliot (most of the time). These are pretty varied betting markets and they look at a lot of different leagues. To hammer home the point though, you are generally just getting one bet. It isn’t even a bet every day with gaps being a relatively common thing here.

And it isn’t just that low volume. There is also the fact that you are ultimately paying quite a lot for it. Football Profit Machine isn’t prohibitively expensive, it is still roughly in line with what I’d expect to pay for a tipster service. But for that, you aren’t necessarily getting a lot. Which is where the broader potential of James Elliot’s reports becomes an intriguing prospect.

Because what you do get is a huge amount of information that you can utilise to discern some potential bets for yourself. I want to double down and reiterate the fact that this isn’t advice James Elliot gives. But if the report is highlighting clear numerical reasoning for recommending a bet, it seems like a logical extension to perhaps bet on those things.

Let’s say, for example, both teams in a given game have strong goal scoring tendencies. James Elliot has recommended you back BTTS. This still leaves the door open for things like over/under markets. Maybe one team has a solid away record and the home team has had shaky form. These are all things that might be pointed out, but not recommended as bets.

Using this and applying your own knowledge can add significantly more value. It can start to make Football Profit Machine make more sense. Of course, you do take on more risk that way. Risk of betting the wrong way, increasing the amount of money you have on a given game, ultimately impacting your results vs. those recorded for the service. But are those results really that great to begin with?

And that for me is one of the biggest things with Football Profit Machine. Because I don’t think that they are. I can respect what James Elliot is doing, and if you know what you are doing and want to use this as a tool, there is potentially value here. But as a tipster service, when the best case scenario is 12 points a month as an average, and you’re staking 3 points a bet… Well, it just doesn’t look great to me.

I can fully appreciate what James Elliot is doing here. I think that the standards that he holds himself to and his approach to tipping is commendable. There are undoubtedly positives. But the bottom line is that if you are solely looking for a tipster service that you can copy, earn a decent bit of scratch on the side, and not really get involved with… well, there are simply better options than Football Profit Machine out there.  

 

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From: Simon Roberts