Harry’s eSport Betting is a new to market betting system which is operated by Harry Plumpton. He claims that he has been able to modify a horse racing betting system to work on esports.
Introduction to xx
At the time of writing this review, there is no escaping the Covid-19 Coronavirus. It is everywhere, and it is also incredibly important to keep in mind for context on this review. Especially since it also plays a huge part in the marketing material. Marketing material that is frankly, highly questionable. You see, this isn’t your typical sales page, rather, everything is presented as a news story authored by one John Mitchel (the website is literally a .news domain).
Now the “news story” talks at length about how horse racing and other sports have been cancelled, however, esports continue to be thriving. It also tells the story of Harry Plumpton, a seeming betting extraordinaire who has modified a horse racing betting system to bet on said esports. However, not surprisingly, he is offering his service to others in the form of Harry’s eSport Betting (for a nominal fee, of course).
I always try to keep an open mind when it comes to products that I look at, but this… Well, it’s going to take a lot of work to not instantly take a cynical approach. None the less, let’s jump right into it and have a look at Harry’s eSport Betting and see what (if anything) it can actually deliver.
What Does Harry’s eSport Betting Offer?
Now what you are getting with Harry’s eSport Betting is actually a very interesting question indeed. Because if you read the sales material, it isn’t something that is ever really discussed, which is definitely a very curious thing indeed. You see, it appears to me that Harry Plumpton (or potentially John Mitchel), in sticking to the “news” theme, gets to avoid actually talking about the product.
And with that in mind, I think it is very interesting to examine and understand what information is actually provided. Now, the sales material makes a specific reference to signing up and receiving access to “an online area where fellow punters can interact and share their knowledge, including a copy of the horse racing system that [Harry Plumpton] has adapted”.
What is particularly stand out about this statement is that you are getting a copy of the horse racing system that has been adapted. Because ultimately, this is the core of what you are paying for when you sign up to xx. The member’s area seems to all be a bit… well, crude at best.
So, what can we say about this betting system? Honestly, there isn’t a whole lot here that is really very positive. If in fact, anything at all. And that mostly comes down to two main reasons in my book. Firstly, I don’t think it is unreasonable to say that there is a perceived lack of effort surrounding all elements of xx.
Secondly, and arguably more importantly, is the fact that whilst I don’t doubt that in theory, you could find overlap between a betting system for horses and a betting system or esports, I don’t see any evidence that Harry’s eSport Betting has achieved this particularly successfully, but I will come back to this a little later on.
Returning to the expectations that Harry Plumpton set for you, there is a firm focus on what esports are and their officiality. Personally, I have played games for a long time, and as such, my awareness of the MLG and other major competitions has been up there. I have also been aware that you can bet on the games for a while now as well.
Harry Plumpton however assumes that you know literally nothing. There is a little bit of talk about how big the esports industry is, there are references to “commonly played games” including FIFA, Fortnite and Street Fighter. Not the examples I’d have given, but I suppose Harry’s eSport Betting is designed to appeal to those who know nothing about the esports world. Something that becomes painfully important a little later on.
Interestingly, in order to make the sales material for Harry’s eSport Betting seem like a more legitimate betting news site, there are plenty of other stories other than xx. These include a few different references to horse racing, no doubt to make those who are a bit less tech savvy feel comfortable that it really is about betting (these do include the cancellation of the horse racing season and Harry Plumpton’s story as well).
What is very noteworthy however is that if you click on either of those other stories (or in fact try to browse any other areas of the Harry’s eSport Betting website/the “news” site), you are taken to the pre-sales page for the system. This for me is very indicative of what this is all about, and it is a topic that I will definitely be picking up a little later on.
Coming back to the highly questionable betting system itself, this feels very hastily put together. It isn’t a particularly good quality product and all of that just doesn’t come as a surprise to me. There are a lot of elements to this that just feel very rushed and particularly questionable (a word that I will be using a lot).
How Does Harry’s eSport Betting Work?
In terms of how Harry’s eSport Betting works, as much as I doubt the quality of the service, I also don’t believe that it is really fair to give away everything for free here either. However, that doesn’t mean that I can’t at least talk a little bit about how all of this works. With that said, I do hope that you’ll pardon the fact that I can’t say too much, as this isn’t particularly complex.
What I will say is that saying that Harry’s eSport Betting is based on a horse racing betting system is a bit of a stretch. There is arguably some overlap here, but if I’m completely honest, no more than any other two basic betting systems that you may want to pick out. What you are really dealing with here are fundamentally quite simple concepts that you may have seen before.
Realistically, I can see how you could apply them to esports, so I suppose that is something. With that said though, I find that so often in this job, I find myself looking at betting services and debating whether or not you should do something, just because you can do something.
The fact of the matter is that I believe that whilst Harry’s eSport Betting may work on paper, realistically, implementing it could potentially put your investment at considerable risk. This is very much compounded when you note that despite the vague claims of how much Harry Plumpton is able to make through esports betting, there isn’t really anything backing this up.
What is the Initial Investment?
There are a lot of elements that are questionable about xx, and even going to pay for the service is a very good example of this. If you click on the link to actually go to the payment page (or in fact any link on the website) then you are taken to another website that states that “Due to increase in demand and having to employ customer support staff, a small one-time admin fee will apply in order to gain access”, clearly suggesting that Harry Plumpton’s system was once free.
From here you are actually taken to the Clickbank payment processing page where you are asked to pay a fee of £27 plus VAT. Even more interestingly is the fact that because Harry’s eSport Betting is being sold through Clickbank, there is a 60 day money back guarantee that is in place. A fact that Harry Plumpton conveniently neglects to mention anywhere in the sales material/”news” article.
What is the Rate of Return?
When it comes to how much you can expect to make from xx, this is a rather interesting element. You see, there aren’t really specific claims made. However, one of those fake “news articles” in the sidebar references a punter who “makes thousands with Esports betting”. For my money, I believe that this is an intentional attempt to imply that you can earn a similar amount.
Unfortunately, there isn’t really any evidence provided that Harry Plumpton has got close to these results. And from what I have seen, nor do I believe that you will get even close to this kind of number either.
Conclusion for xx
In this line of work, I have looked at a lot of bad betting services. And there are a lot of reasons for this. And I cannot begin to tell you how many times I have found myself looking at a service and decided that it is arguably the worst thing that I have looked at recently, or in fact, ever.
There are a few reasons for this, most of which tie into a rather large rant that I’ve already gone over in my head. Honestly, this product is infuriating. But let’s just put all of that to one side for a minute and talk about Harry’s eSport Betting as it is.
The fact of the matter is that I just don’t believe this to be a particularly good betting system. Sure, it might be relatively cheap, but what is the point in not paying a lot of money for a bad product? Especially when there are so many good ones on the market.
As I’ve said, it’s incredibly simplistic and I could wrap this up here by simply saying that this is an occasion where I would consider spending more on something that actually has merit.
With that said, I don’t believe that this is the main consideration for xx. Not by a long shot. You see, I genuinely believe though that I don’t think I have seen anything as questionable as xx. And there are many reasons for this.
Firstly, and the most obvious element, is the sales page. The fact that Harry Plumpton presents his story as being “news” is massively dodgy. It’s something that I’ve seen done before to a degree, but it isn’t nearly as pointed as this.
There have been several times where I have referenced the fact that my time in this line of work has allowed me to see through questionable tactics. But the fact is that there are a lot of people who would look at this and believe it to be genuine. Adding to that “genuineness” are little touches like the “fact” that punters.news has been “keeping you up to date since 2014”, or the other horse racing “news stories” from before the sport shut down.
On top of this, there are numerous comments from “readers” one of whom explicitly states that they’re in their 60’s. This fits with the character of Harry Plumpton as well. And honestly, all of this doesn’t strike me as a coincidence whatsoever.
Now I don’t want to say that I am definitively correct in terms of this gut feeling, but I want you to consider the following. Let’s pretend that you are a vendor who is pretty well known (at least, they are to me) for putting out questionable products. You’ve spent time working on a horse racing betting system that you intend to flog. Then Covid-19 hits and there is no more horse racing to bet on.
What do you do? One easy answer is that you pivot your system with a view to selling to those who may not be in the know about a niche topic that you can still bet on. Say… esports? The kind of punter that you are targeting here may not know much about them. But it’s easy to say that you’ve modified your horse racing system .Especially when that was already a simple thing.
So, you set the page up to look like a news article, fail to tell people about their rights to a refund, and create an “old school” character who also knew nothing about esports. That is of course, until he started to make thousands backing them using his modified horse racing system.
The icing on the cake of this is that as that vendor, you can even offer your original horse racing betting system as a bonus. So even if the esports doesn’t work, you can tell customers not to worry because the horse racing system definitely does, and you’ll easily make your money back when the horse racing is back on. Conveniently, after the refund period that you aren’t told about has expired.
Now, I will hold my hands up. There is an incredibly slim possibility that I have misread all of this situation and I’m wrong. But I’m not convinced that I am. The vendor who is ultimately selling Harry’s eSport Betting has put out at least 7 products since 2019. Often within a month of one another. Furthermore, they also appear to have had multiple vendor accounts selling betting products.
None of this paints the best picture really. And for my money, this is one of the most irredeemable betting services that I have ever looked at. Everything about it just stinks, and when you can say that before even looking at what a product entails, that is pretty big indicator of what you can expect for the future as well.
I can put my hand on my heart and say that I cannot stress enough that this is something that you should avoid. The whole of Harry’s eSport Betting seems to be nothing more than a quick and lazy cash in on a tragic situation, which in and of itself should be enough to say that it isn’t worth your time and effort. When this is combined with everything else, it just looks a bit tasteless.
Well said Curtis !!
There is so much tipster site junk being fabricated and peddled with the same fake claims of massive returns, fantastic strike rates and of course the obligatory ‘fake screenshots’ of Betfair pages showing so many winners, with incredible results and returns. This latest name of Harry Plumpton, follows the same ploy of using ethereal names of the likes of Jason, Dennis, Matt, Simon, James, Finn, Rob, Jake, FD etc, etc…… all with swish pages showing a hook link to web-pages of services claiming to have incredible results and massive returns, and all of these sites with no advance proofing of results as real legal evidence.
This set of tipster services absolutely stinks, and more so when it is pushed out at a very challenging time for society and aimed at people whom may be financially struggling during a UK lock-down in a Global Pandemic. Utterly shameful, and I am confident that Trading Standards investigators will catch up with the creators of these sites which take the punters £10, £25, £29 payments only for the poor punter to then see a poor results service return, and within a short period the tipster service closes down. Shortly after, normally within a week, Wow, another fake tipster site opens up under under another service name. Here we go again folks.
The net is closing on services like this, and the message is widely being circulated, so Curtis keep up the honest and truthful criticism of these tipster services which are 100% for people to avoid !