High Rolling Traders is a new to market horse racing tipster service that comes from the Telegram Tips stable of tipsters. They claim that the service has produced some incredibly strong profits in a short space of time.
Introduction to High Rolling Traders
A big part of the reason that I am able to avoid so much BS when it comes to tipster services is simple. I question everything. Only when there is nothing really left to question can you make an informed decision about whether or not something is a viable option for you. And the part that I have learned to question more than anything else is results. Not because I don’t believe tipsters or betting system creators, but because they are the easiest numbers for somebody to manipulate.
What I mean by this is that I could make 10 points a month. I could also say that I’m making £10,000 per month. Both statements could be true, but one is more reflective of what I am doing than the other. This is really important to keep in mind with todays review subject. According to Telegram Tips, High Rolling Traders has made some incredible amounts of money. “£2,000 turned into £7,654.60!! IN JUST 4 MONTHS!!” screams the headline. Well, that’s getting on for £1,500 a month. Surely this is an absolute winner. Right!?
The thing is, when you start scratching the surface of High Rolling Traders, I can’t help but feel that perhaps it isn’t all as it initially seems. Don’t get me wrong, there are definitely some strong results behind this, but one can’t help but feel like Telegram Tips have perhaps… inflated them a little. When you start to put everything into context, only then do you really get a sense of what this is about. Like stepping back from a painting in a gallery. As you might expect, this means that there is a lot to cover, so let’s get into it.
What Does High Rolling Traders Offer?
If there is one thing that I can say about High Rolling Traders, it is that it is… interesting. Now, interesting is a word that has many meanings and connotations, and that is what makes it rather difficult to write about this. Because there is little here that really makes any sort of sense. At least, in the conventional sense of the word.
With that said, that is also something that can be a massive positive when dealing with a tipster service. The kind of approach taken with High Rolling Traders, put simply, can also be a significant indicator of a tipster who is both willing to make changes and has the understanding and awareness to know that there is a time and a place to bet.
Having established all of that, I want to start by talking about what you can expect from High Rolling Traders. The fact is that Telegram Tips don’t necessarily have a huge amount to say about who is behind the service or what they are looking to do, but that doesn’t mean that there is no insight to gleam from it all.
One of the things that stands out to me about High Rolling Traders more than anything else is the distribution of bets. This might sound like an interesting place to start, but it dictates a lot of the service in ways that you might not expect. The most obvious thing is that this isn’t a service that bets daily. Far from it.
In actual fact, there are frequent no bet days when you look through Telegram Tips’ proofing. At this point, you could very easily decide that you’re dealing with a particularly selective tipster service. This definitely makes up a part of the marketing for High Rolling Traders. But by the same token, it is also a rather high volume service.
Most days where there are bets, there are multiple bets. Sometimes as many as 4 bets. Now, it isn’t excessive, and it is all very manageable, but it does feel like a little bit of a juxtaposition between this idea of a service that is using specialist information (more on this later) and a service that is backing based off some sort of perceived value.
The reason that I add that last part is because High Rolling Traders bets on a lot of long shots. For some context on this, the average odds for the service come in at about 5/1. The actual range to BOG starts at 1/2 and goes all the way up to 50/1. That is quite the difference. What is particularly interesting to me though is that these higher odds bets rarely seem to win or even place.
There are a lot of reasons for all of this, but it definitely means that when you start looking at the results for High Rolling Traders and see a strike rate of 43.72% that you keep context at the front of your mind. This isn’t exactly winning 44% of bets on the regular and there is a significant disparity. Something that Telegram Tips don’t really mention.
Something that they do mention however are the stakes involved. These are a huge part of the results for High Rolling Traders. You see, all bets are advised to be backed to 2 points per bet. Whilst this isn’t necessarily prohibitive and a moderate betting banks should more than cover your bets, it is hard to overlook that this does still inflate the numbers.
As a final aside, I want to touch on how Telegram Tips manage things. High Rolling Traders is a pretty standard affair as far as tipster services go. Selections are sent out to subscribers directly via email. There isn’t a massive amount of information included within this, but it isn’t poor either. Honestly, it is all a pretty standard example of what I’d expect to see from a tipster service of this nature.
The only difference lies in the fact that you have to act really quickly if you want to take advantage of bets. Don’t get me wrong, if you’re following High Rolling Traders, you will have time to get your bets on. But this is also a service in which being able to move quickly is really quite imperative to getting the most out of it all.
How Does High Rolling Traders Work?
Ok, let’s talk about how High Rolling Traders works. And this is where things really get interesting. I don’t think that the approach that Telegram Tips talk about is anything particularly new and groundbreaking. I have definitely seen the principles used before this. But I don’t think they’ve been used in quite this way either. For reasons that I have just mentioned and want to talk about a little later on.
Now, the “traders” in High Rolling Traders are not asking you to trade. Whilst you can use this with a betting exchange, what you are getting are simple back to win or place bets. What is interesting is how they identify opportunities. What Telegram Tips say is that they have “pent hours, and tens of thousands of pounds, building statistical models and complex algorithms to accurately follow the REAL MONEY to help them to the BIGGEST betting rewards”.
That sound complicated, I know. But what it really boils down to is that High Rolling Traders is based on inside information. The idea however is different to what you might expect. Instead of a text off a stable hand or a nod from an owner, Telegram Tips say that the team are looking at where the betting markets move. This is a very smart way of approaching betting because… well, the numbers don’t lie. And like I have said, the idea isn’t new to me either.
The problem with all of this is, rather unfortunately, a bit of a big one. Mostly we are talking about the fact that you are simply taking Telegram Tips’ word that any of this is going on in the background. Interestingly though, I do believe it in the case of High Rolling Traders. The proofing shows that across BOG, BSP, and SP, there isn’t that much difference in the results. All of which suggests that picks really are based off market movements.
What is the Initial Investment?
One of the biggest considerations with High Rolling Traders is undoubtedly the cost. Make no mistake about it, this is a pricey tipster service. If you want to get on board, you really have to pay for it. And with Telegram Tips having just two offerings, it does make it somewhat more difficult to identify value.
The cheapest option by cost for High Rolling Traders is a monthly subscription which is priced at £65 per month. This is way above the average that I would expect to pay for a tipster service. For context, I would normally say that £30 – £50 per month is acceptable.
A quarterly subscription to High Rolling Traders is significantly better value, but it is still quite expensive. Instead of £65 per month, Telegram Tips are asking £130 per quarter. Effectively, this gives you a “free month” compared to that monthly subscription. What I will say is that at the time of writing, you can get started with your first quarter for just £90.
Unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to be any sort of money back guarantee in place for High Rolling Traders. This isn’t something that I think you can ultimately hold against Telegram Tips though. It is typically industry standard, and given the low costs involved is hardly a deal breaker.
What is the Rate of Return?
I have already touched on the claimed income for High Rolling Traders. That one that is pushed so very hard in the marketing. A profit of £5,654.60 in just 4 months. Unfortunately, I’m not quite sure how all of this works out. According to Telegram Tips, that is to £20 stakes, however, when I look at their results as published, I can’t quite work it out. But the numbers are there or there abouts. One imagines that there have maybe been some selective odds involved.
Here’s the bottom line as far as I’m concerned. At the time of writing, High Rolling Traders is sitting at a profit of 154.86 to BOG. In 4 months, that isn’t half bad. But there is that consideration of the 2 point stakes too. They mean that if you scale the numbers back, you’re looking at closer to 76 points of profit. 19 points per month is a lot less impressive.
The real saving grace is arguably the ROI which sits at almost 44% at the time of writing. This is however down a small amount on the 46.54% that Telegram Tips use in the sales material for High Rolling Traders.
Conclusion for High Rolling Traders
I don’t think that High Rolling Traders is a bad tipster service. That is something that I think I have to be incredibly clear about. The results aren’t terrible at all. The approach is novel and has a lot of potential. But this is also a service that is quite a long way from being something that is presented by Telegram Tips.
A big factor in all of this is simple. Cost. If you want £65 per month for approaching £1,500 per month, I’m on board with that. But asking £65 per month for results that are in line with tipster service that that are less than half the price… well, that’s not something I can really get behind.
It isn’t even like one can look at High Rolling Traders an say that it is decidedly unique in any way. At least, not to the benefit of us as punters. Let’s say for example that this was taking just 1 bet per day, sent out the night before racing, and getting the same results. Well, that’s low risk, there isn’t a huge amount of work involved, and the numbers would look good. But this isn’t that.
Instead, for High Rolling Traders to work you have to be able to work quickly. Shopping around for odds is a difficulty because they could be better with a bookie or on an exchange. And whilst you can still use an odds comparison site to look at all this (discounting betting each way I would hasten to add), once that “smart money” is being placed, the prices start shifting rapidly. So things aren’t quite as straight forward.
I said that the approach behind High Rolling Traders is something that I have seen before, but never quite used this way. I feel like there is good reason for that. The fact of the matter is that when I have seen services that look at market movements, they are all based around trading. And incidentally, it is all traders that are offering out these tips. I think that is quite telling.
To reiterate, I don’t think that this is a bad service. But there are bad things about it. The manipulation of results is always a bit frustrating for me. The cost is a hell of a lot really. Way more than I would want to pay. Not because I’m tight, but because I know that there are proven betting systems out there that I would say are better for £20 more. Some even cost less.
I also don’t think this is really a user friendly option. High Rolling Traders isn’t something that you can follow lightly. Especially because every single bet counts with this. Missing a day might be the difference between profit and loss for a month. Especially when you factor in those subscription costs.
With all of this in mind, I don’t think that I would look to recommend High Rolling Traders. There is definitely some merit to this. But there isn’t enough that I’d say that you should be paying out £65 per month for results that, once you level them out, simply aren’t that great.
