John Gibb Racing Review

John Gibb Racing is a brand new horse racing tipster service that is operated by the eponymous John Gibb. He claims to be able to take small stakes and turn them into very big profits.

Introduction to John Gibb Racing

I love the idea of low stakes and big wins. And that is exactly what John Gibb claims you can get from his tipster service, John Gibb Racing. It is a part of his logo, the headline asks if you want “BIG WINS FROM TINY STAKES?”. Everything about this service sets you up for one thing, and one thing only.

As such, I don’t think that I would be seen as being entirely unreasonable in holding John Gibb to these claims. I mean, if you are certain enough in something that you can make the claim not just once, not twice, but three times (including stating that his strategy generates “BIG returns with LOW RISK daily investments).

So, I am honestly slightly excited for John Gibb Racing. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not entirely convinced that it can deliver on the claims made, but you don’t necessarily have to. Honestly, if John Gibb could deliver just half of what he claims, then you would still have a strong service that commands your attention. Can it deliver even that fraction though? Let’s have a look and see.  

What Does John Gibb Racing Offer?

Honestly, I’m quite keen to see whether or not my initial thoughts surrounding John Gibb Racing will hold any weight. The claims that are made really do suggest something that is quite extraordinary, which is interesting to me. Because the fact of the matter is that when you look at what you are actually getting from John Gibb, everything seems to be a pretty basic tipster service.

Now, with that said, I don’t believe that this applies to all of the elements that are involved with the service. There are aspects that whilst far from advanced, are at least a little bit different to the norm. But I will come to those elements a little later on.

First things first, I want to address the logistical side of things. Honestly, there aren’t many ways that a tipster service can stand out these days. With everything being online, there is a pretty standardised approach to managing services. Having said that, there are approaches that some tipsters use that are very clearly better than others.

In the case of John Gibb Racing, selections are sent out directly to subscribers via email. As you would probably expect, this is about the bare minimum in terms of service management. The tips are issued in the evening before racing, which does elevate John Gibb somewhat over his rivals.  Selections will typically and with subscribers before 11pm.

This is a good thing for a few reasons in my book. First of all, if you are stuck in a 9 to 5, this gives you plenty of time to get the bets placed before the off. This has a secondary effect as well in so much as you are also able to get the best possible value when you are backing horses the day before racing. It is no secret that you will just get better odds from bookies.

The bets themselves have a very distinctive structure, and this is one of those areas where John Gibb Racing does start to look at least a little bit different to the norm. Now, it should be apparent at this point that, John Gibb has spent a lot of time talking about how his low bets are low risk with high returns.

How is this achieved, you may be asking? The shortest and most simple answer is that John Gibb Racing is based exclusively around trebles. Personally, I find the sales material to be a little bit disingenuous in this regard. John Gibb makes a lot of talk about how he leverages just 3 bets per day, but in bringing them into a treble, it isn’t really 3 bets. It is one bet, comprised of 3 different selections.

Now, I’m probably being a little bit facetious here. Who really wants to split hairs over this kind of thing? But I always find it to be important to highlight misinformation in the sales material for products like John Gibb Racing as they are often indicators of wider problems.

So, you receive your 3 bets per day. Or 1 bet, depending on how you look at it. These are at a significant range of odds with a bias towards much longer ones. In fact, a glance over John Gibb’s evidence for John Gibb Racing (I refuse to call it proofing) shows bets with odds of some 85/1.

Naturally, you wouldn’t expect John Gibb Racing to win often, and even John Gibb acknowledges that you would be right. He says that “If you expect that [all selections winning] then please do not join”. Which is a pretty fair comment to make really. However, what he doesn’t do is discuss what kind of strike rate you can actually expect.

Honestly, I see this as a pretty big problem. Look, we all know that when you’re dealing with trebles, you aren’t going to get a high strike rate. And yet, if you actually extrapolate from the limited data provided, we are expected to anticipate a strike rate in the region of 30-35%. And without comprehensive proofing, I don’t believe that this kind of number is attainable.

Fortunately, you wont be risking a lot when you bet. The whole of John Gibb Racing is built around John Gibb’s claim that you can make the income claimed using just £5 stakes. This means that in a given week, the most that you risk is £35. Sounds reasonable enough right? Personally, I’m not sold on this, but I will come back to the point a little later.

How Does John Gibb Racing Work?

If you want to gain any understanding about how John Gibb Racing works, you are going to be left sorely disappointed. The fact of the matter is that John Gibb just doesn’t talk about what his selection process is. At all. And this, along with many other points, concerns me greatly.

I am a strong advocate of consumer rights, and just as you wouldn’t buy a TV without looking it up first, I don’t know why you would simply take a tipster at face value. However, there isn’t even a lot of face value when it comes to John Gibb Racing, with John Gibb preferring to simply avoid talking about anything tangible to do with the service.

It seems like the whole approach of… Well, everything really, is to stick to that mantra of not betting a lot, but potentially winning very big. Something that is all well and good in theory, however, with that lack of substantive evidence and information on the selection process, I just don’t see it as good enough.

Whenever you make a purchase, you should have the right to at least have some knowledge of what you are buying into. And whilst this is theoretically the case when it comes to John Gibb Racing, I think you have to put far too much faith into some highly questionable numbers. That is a big ask in my opinion, and one that is perhaps just a little bit too much.

What is the Initial Investment?

If you were to sign up for John Gibb Racing, you may well think that you are getting an absolute bargain. John Gibb is asking a one time fee of just £19 (plus VAT) in order to receive his selections for the rest of the year. This represents a substantial saving, he tells us, on the real value of £30 per month (a figure that I don’t believe to be genuine for reasons that I will get to a little later).

Now, it is worth noting that John Gibb Racing is being sold through the Clickbank platform. And this does mean that there is a full 60 day money back guarantee in place (something which is at least mentioned in the sales material).

What is the Rate of Return?

Finally, we come to the main reason that you would want to buy into John Gibb Racing, which is the profits. Now, there are a lot of different numbers that are thrown around so bear with me a little here. First of all, we are told that you can potentially see £612.50 profit from a single bet. From there, John Gibb claims to have made £1,467.98 in 15 days, ending with a claim of making £18,741.46 since the start of the year.

All of these numbers appear to be relatively believable at a glance. After all, you are dealing with accumulators here, and even trebles can produce some big winners. However, let me reframe those numbers for you.

That first bet alone would represent a profit of 121.5 points. In 15 days, John Gibb claims to have made more than 293.6 points. And since the start of the year, he has made 3,748.2 points. All to level stakes of 1 point per bet. Do those numbers seem realistic at all? I know they don’t to me, and yet that is exactly what we are asked to believe when it comes to John Gibb Racing.

Conclusion for John Gibb Racing

I have a lot of reasons to doubt John Gibb Racing. But if you want to know what stands out more than anything else, it is that claimed income. Making £18,500 a year is pretty believable. But making 3,750 points a year? I mean… There are genuinely good tipsters that would be ecstatic to produce that kind of result over the course of a decade. But in a year? That’s unbelievable in the worst way.

So, if the results lack any feasibility at all, that very easily calls into doubt the rest of the service. And that is a position that I consider to be entirely reasonable. Because those results aren’t the only discrepancy with John Gibb Racing. For example, I have some huge questions about John Gibb’s pricing.

Here’s what I see when I look at what he’s asking. A marketer who is seemingly offered a cut price service. We are even told that it represents exceptional value for money, because you would usually pay £30 per month. So, £20 for the rest of the year is a bargain, right? And there’s even a 60 day money back guarantee in place!

Except, my gut feeling says that if you contact John Gibb for a refund, you will be highly encouraged to hang on. Triples don’t win every day, but when they do, you’re in for the big bucks. So surely, it’s worth sticking this one out right? Just past that 60 day money back guarantee period…

I know that this will sound controversial, and I would genuinely be over the moon for John Gibb to call me out and prove me wrong. But given the lack of evidence surrounding John Gibb Racing to date, I am not convinced this will be the case. Especially because I am familiar with the vendor who is selling John Gibb Racing through Clickbank.

Unfortunately, this isn’t for any particularly positive reasons. They have put out a number of tipster services and none of them have really stuck around for much longer than a few months. And based off the highly questionable results that surround John Gibb Racing, I don’t really believe that it will be too long before this goes the same way.

But even without that knowledge of the “background” of John Gibb Racing (which I will also maintain is incredibly important to know), this is something that just doesn’t present a viable tipster service in my opinion. Maybe with some proofing, I could be a bit on board.

But otherwise, I see this as nothing more than an attempt to try and lure in those who perhaps don’t know any better. So, not at all surprisingly, I wouldn’t recommend John Gibb Racing. Even at that supposedly reduced “special offer “price.

 

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Comments (1)

Yet another exceedingly poor strike rate! Avoid like the plague.

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From: Simon Roberts