Lucky Carl Review Carl Stone

Lucky Carl is a new to market horse racing tipster service which is operated by one Carl Stone. He claims to have made some incredibly impressive through specific horse racing betting.

Introduction to Lucky Carl

I normally like to set up a review by providing some context for a tipster service. Maybe it uses a niche bet type. Maybe it is a service that is all about profit. Today though, I have to get straight into the reason that Lucky Carl stood out to me. That is a headline that reads “ Sick of Buying Tips From Dodgy Fraudsters That Just Send You Losing Tips ALL The Time and Bleed Your Betting Bank Dry?!”. Well, somebody clearly knows the horse racing tipster industry very well.

From there, the tone just doesn’t change. Carl Stone opens his sales copy by saying “If you’re sick and tired of losing your hard earned cash all the time on lame betting systems and tips that never live up to the hype on their website then you’re in the right place!”. And it goes on and on in this way. Which is really interesting to me for reasons that I will come to a little later on in this review. But what it does mean is that Lucky Carl needs to do a bloody good job of making sure it doesn’t fall into those traps.

Which is interesting. Because there are a lot of comparisons that can be drawn between statements that Carl Stone makes directly about “other” services, that are equally as applicable to Lucky Carl.  Make no mistake, these are early red flags, and whilst I will try to keep an open mind, my gut feeling is that things are only going to get worse. So, with all of that on the table, let’s get straight into this.

What Does Lucky Carl Offer?

It can be difficult to know where to start with some tipster services because there is a lot on offer to you. Lucky Carl doesn’t really fall into this category though. Whilst there is arguably something interesting going on here in terms of the bets, I can also say that I’ve seen the approach enough times recently to say that it is really exciting. Something that also becomes rather problematic later, as I will get to.  

First things first, let’s talk about the logistical elements. One of the things that Carl Stone is keen to highlight is that he only advises tips Monday through Friday. This means that whilst it isn’t quite a daily affair, you are still betting every day for most days of the week. This is an interesting approach for Lucky Carl. Especially in light of the bet types.

Sticking with the management and logistics side of things, there isn’t really anything about Lucky Carl that stands out from most tipster services that you see on the market. This includes the fact that, as is pretty much industry standard, selections are simply sent out directly via email by Carl Stone. These will typically land around 10pm, the day before racing.

Unfortunately, there isn’t really a lot that you can say past this as there isn’t really that much information provided with the emails. Don’t get me wrong, you get enough to get bets placed, but it just feels lacking. Especially when you start to compare Lucky Carl to some direct rivals who give you a much better idea of what you are doing. Here, Carl Stone simply says that he personally uses Betfair and otherwise, rather fobs you off.

One of the issues that I have with this is a relatively simple fact which is that the bet type that Lucky Carl is entirely built upon isn’t something you can easily identify what are “good” odds for. This is because odds comparison sites don’t really cater for the se more exotic accumulators. As such, you are very much left to your own devices with Lucky Carl.

What bets are we talking about here exactly? Lucky Carl exclusively uses Lucky 15 bets. A type of accumulator that brings together 4 singles, 6 doubles, 4 trebles, and a four-fold. In theory, a bet type that can both sustain a betting bank, and also allow for jackpot wins that can bring in some very substantial profits.

This is a point that Carl Stone is very keen to drive home when he talks about Lucky Carl. Especially with a £15 stake Lucky 15 that supposedly came in bringing a very substantial profit of £2,738 (or returns of almost 183 times the initial stake). A number that is undoubtedly bolstered by the odds that we are shown.

And this is something that I want to build on a little more. Earlier, I talked about being on your own in terms of finding the best odds, but I didn’t really discuss why it is so problematic. You see, most of the selections that Carl Stone advises have quite middling odds. Something that doesn’t actually strike me as a coincidence, because it very realistically affects the likelihood of bets actually winning.

Which brings me to the strike rate, or rather, the lack thereof. Because Carl Stone doesn’t actually make any specific claims in this regard. What we are treated to however is an implication that you will win relatively frequently. In 13 days of betting for March, Lucky Carl supposedly had six winning days. That would put the strike rate for the service at a shade under 50%. A very questionable figure in my mind. Especially in light of the lack of real evidence.

Where this is really worrying to me is that you if you are following Carl Stone’s advice, you are starting with “just £1 stakes”. Except, across all bets, that means £15 per day. Not necessarily a massive amount, I will happily admit. But we are also told that Lucky Carl requires a small betting bank to get started. An assertion that I am not certain I believe is necessarily realistic.

How Does Lucky Carl Work?

When it comes to talking about how a service works, especially one like Lucky Carl, there are a few considerations to be made. The first thing is inevitably the type of bet that is sued. As I mentioned earlier, in theory, Lucky 15 bets can be a good way of helping to improve the overall value of selections whilst mitigating risk.

The issue with this is that it is actually reliant on having a decent selection process in place. Something that Carl Stone doesn’t really discuss with Lucky Carl. Really, if truth be told, there isn’t anything that is said. Almost everything that is said about why or how this service works is framed more around pointing out how bad other tipsters are, and how they all make ridiculous promises that they cannot deliver on.

Building on this, Carl Stone is keen to try and promote the idea that his results are somehow more realistic. All based off very minimal evidence in the form of 6 winning betting slips. At this point, you don’t have to be particularly astute to realise that you aren’t actually being told anything. And that is, I believe, the get out of jail free card for Lucky Carl.

In not telling you anything about the selection process, in slating other services, and in talking up a type of bet as being something (which it categorically isn’t. A type of bet does not a system make), Carl Stone makes Lucky Carl look like some kind of legitimate force. But the blunt fact of the matter is that we are offered absolutely no insight, information, or tangible evidence that there is even a basic system in place. It is all highly questionable.  

What is the Initial Investment?

At the time of writing, there is just one option available if you want to sign up. This is a monthly subscription which is priced at just £19 plus VAT. Very interestingly, this isn’t actually a recurring payment. Something that will become pertinent a little bit later on.

Also of note is that Lucky Carl comes with a full 30 day money back guarantee. This is backed up by the fact that Carl Stone is selling the service through Clickbank. Generally speaking, this should mean that you shouldn’t have any problems claiming your refund if you wish to claim this.  

What is the Rate of Return?

There are a lot of different numbers that Carl Stone throws about in terms of how much you can supposedly make following his betting advice. The headlining figure is actually £4,075.11 of profit in just 15 days. A number that represents a points profit of 271.67 points if you view that complete £15 stake as a single point. The number increases dramatically if you view £1 as a point.

Whichever approach you take, it means that Lucky Carl is producing a profit that is substantially in excess of what a reputable tipster might produce in a year. A figure that is also claimed without any real context or proofing.

Conclusion for Lucky Carl

I’ll be blunt here. I do not like Lucky Carl a single bit. It is one of the most questionable tipster services that I have looked at for a long time. There are so many red flags here that I genuinely don’t know where to start. I have to start somewhere though, so let’s begin with the marketing.

Whenever I look at a tipster service that puts a lot of energy into telling you that other tipster services are scams or rip offs or full of fraudulent claims, I always ask why. Not because I necessarily disagree with the sentiment. There are lots of questionable tipster services and betting systems on the market. But are these points being raised objectively, or to seemingly validate something that is being sold. It is clear to me what Carl Stone is about with Lucky Carl.

He isn’t warning people off those other services. It is all being used as a rhetoric to make Lucky Carl look like a better option. He isn’t claiming that you’re buying into a get rich quick scheme. His results are all genuine and entirely believable. As a demonstration of this irony, he makes reference to “These services guarantee over 50-100 points profit a month betting single win bets or have some ridiculous six figure claim which I now know is totally unattainable!”.

All of this is said with a straight face that claims to have produced a profit of 271.67 points of profit in two weeks. Do you see the irony in what Carl Stone is doing? Meanwhile, we are shown a profit over the last 13 months of £32,050. More than 2,000 points of profit. There are tipsters who won’t make that in decade. But it’s OK, because Lucky Carl isn’t like those other “dodgy” tipsters.

Now, maybe with some verified and comprehensive proofing, this could be believable. Maybe if Carl Stone had provided any real evidence that he is able to deliver on his claims, we’d be having a different conversation. But he doesn’t. What you actually get are 6 questionable betting slip screenshots and pictures of a mansion, a Range Rover, and a tropical beach.

One of the biggest concerns for me though is the way the whole package comes together. Carl Stone is selling a 1 month subscription. His money back guarantee runs for a month. And whilst we are repeatedly told that you will get your money back if you’re not 100% happy after a full month, well, at that point you’ve passed Clickbank’s refund period. This leaves you with little recourse if Lucky Carl doesn’t work out as claimed.

Meanwhile, you are using a betting type that thrives on hope. Because there is very real potential for that big win. It can always be around the corner. But it also means picking 4 horses, 5 days a week that actually have a chance of winning. Something Carl Stone suggests is the case for Lucky Carl, all whilst failing to discuss or provide any insight into how exactly he is supposedly doing all of this.

The fact of the matter is that whilst I believe that Lucky Carl is very well positioned to appeal to a certain sort of person, I see no real reason to believe any of the claims made. There certainly isn’t evidence from Carl Stone that it will work in my opinion. And with that in mind, I cannot recommend enough giving this one a pretty wide berth.  


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From: Simon Roberts