Odds On Investor is a horse racing tipster service that is operated by one Terence Watkins. The service is being marketed through Bet Social Tipsters who claim that there is some massive profit potential on display.
Introduction to Odds On Investor
If there is one thing that I admire more than anything else when it comes to a betting system or a tipster service, it is transparency. I know that it’s a difficult thing to ask for, what with the internet and the general digital world being what it is. I might even be a bit old fashioned in saying this. But I like to know what it is I’m getting myself into. If I want to buy a new TV, I will look at the specs involved, I will compare price points, and I will review all that against my need. Then I make a decision.
One of the biggest obstacles to this with tipster services is that information changes so frequently. As such, you sometimes end up with sales pages for tipster services that advertise one thing (typically based off the first few months) whereas the reality can be quite different. All of this brings me to Odds On Investor. This is a tipster service that at first glance looks to be truly incredible. Bet Social Tipsters claim that Terence Watkins has seen some massive returns, that you can double your bank every month, that there is an extremely high strike rate.
All is well with Odds On Investor then, right? Well, when you start looking into it, things are much less black and white. Whilst Terence Watkins has still had some good runs, and there is a lot to be said for the fact that there is still reasonable performance here, Bet Social Tipsters’ proofing also shows a very mixed bag indeed. Honestly, there is a fair old amount to cover here. Especially if I want to be really fair about this (which of course I do). So, let’s get into it.
What Does Odds On Investor Offer?
By a significant margin, Odds On Investor is one of the most straightforward and simple tipster services that I think I’ve looked at for some time. I always feel the need to point out that this doesn’t have to be a bad thing with a tipster service though. In fact, most of the problematic services that I’ve seen before now have been because they’ve overcomplicated something that just doesn’t need it.
This means that we open on a really strong note. And if I’m honest, this somewhat applies throughout the entire service too. I feel comfortable saying here and now that there are a lot of strong points when it comes to Odds On Investor that I want to cover. All of which I think it’s fair to say starts with how Bet Social Tipsters and Terence Watkins manage things.
Now, most of this is probably what you would expect from a modern tipster service. Selections are issued directly via email, all that you have to do is place the advised bets (I’ll be picking this point up again shortly). Something that stands out to me though is that Terence Watkins very clearly doesn’t bet for the sake of it. Some weeks might produce less than a bet per day. There can sometimes be several days between bets. That is a welcome thing.
In terms of the bets themselves, well, this is a straight forward horse racing service. As you might expect to see, this pretty much means that you’re simply betting on horses to win. Especially because as the name states, you are dealing predominantly with odds on betting. Put simply, you won’t see long odds with Terence Watkins’s approach.
This is most evident when you start to look at the average odds. To BOG, they come in at just 1.70. These drift slightly depending on if you’re betting to SP or BSP as well, but with Odds On Investor, you will very rarely be betting at more than evens. Of course, this ends up having a huge effect on a number of things related to the wider service, but it also means one incredibly obvious thing in my mind.
If you are going to give Odds On Investor a go, the best thing you can be doing is taking advantage of an odds comparison site. In my experience, if you are able, you can expect to see an increase of between 10% and 15% on the odds available. If you’re dealing with very small numbers and winning often enough, that starts to add up quite significantly.
This applies doubly so when you start to factor in the volume of bets. You see, just because Terence Watkins doesn’t bet every day, that doesn’t mean that there aren’t a good number of bets to place. Whilst you might not receive a selection for several days with Odds On Investor, Bet Social Tipsters’ proofing shows that historically, you may also have four selections on a given day.
All of this has a knock on effect on how much you are staking. And this becomes one of the biggest issues with Odds On Investor. For some context, Bet Social Tipsters proof all of Terence Watkins’s selections to level stakes. However, they are proofed to 5 points per bet. This means that on those busier days, you can stake 20 points per day. That is a lot.
Adding to this, Bet Social Tipsters also recommend a compounding approach that they refer to as an “Ultimate Bank Builder”. This drastically increases the profit potential of Odds On Investor, of course. However, it also makes any losing streaks significantly more substantial too. And that is something that is quite problematic with this service in my opinion.
You see, whilst Odds On Investor has an undeniably substantial strike rate that averages out at around 59%, there have still been substantial losses on occasion. You see, the nature of the low odds mean that Terence Watkins needs to be hitting about 59% to make a profit (based off the average odds). This is demonstrated with most profitable months exceeding 60%. But losing months can still win more than 40% of the time and incur substantial losses.
How Does Odds On Investor Work?
I think that it’s fair to say that the core strategy of Odds On Investor is a simple one really. You don’t win big, but you win often. That is an entirely sound strategy to live by, so long as you are able to deliver on that. But if I’m really honest, outside of that notion… well, there just isn’t a huge amount of information provided by Terence Watkins or Bet Social Tipsters about how the service “works”.
We are, for example, told that Terence Watkins is a “professional investor” and that Odds On Investor isn’t your typical tipster service, so much as “a business where serious bettors place there [sic] money with the utmost confidence for HUGE long term rewards”. There are also references to finding the edge, about being selective and disciplined. It all sounds good, and it isn’t without merit. But there is one minor issue that I have.
None of this is actually telling you about how Odds On Investor works! At no point is there any mention of Terence Watkins’s selection process, about why you should be putting (and I won’t mince my words here) quite significant stakes onto backing a horse that has quite minimal returns. This is quite important if you want to make an informed decision here, and unfortunately, I don’t believe that you ultimately can. Which for reasons I will cover shortly isn’t great.
The only real mitigating factor in my mind is that Bet Social Tipsters do provide some incredibly comprehensive proofing for Odds On Investor. This means that you can easily look at everything that has been and gone with this service and use that to inform a decision about whether it is for you. Honestly, though, it still isn’t a real replacement in my mind.
What is the Initial Investment?
Now we come to one of the biggest concerns that I have in terms of Odds On Investor. The costs involved. A monthly subscription to Odds On Investor will set you back an eyewatering £97. Per month. I know tipsters that will ask that kind of price for a full quarter. In the meantime, if you do want to get slightly better value for money, Bet Social Tipsters also offer a quarterly subscription to Terence Watkins’s selections. At £227 though, you are still looking at a huge amount of money.
One of the biggest issues that I have with this is that there is no money back guarantee or refund period in place. Whilst this is generally standard issue for the tipster industry, I do think that if Bet Social Tipsters are going to ask for such a premium for Odds On Investor, it isn’t unreasonable to give people some opportunity to back out.
What is the Rate of Return?
The headlining thing for me is that Bet Social Tipsters claim that a £2,000 betting bank grew into over £20,000 in 10 weeks. This of course is based around the incredibly aggressive compounding plan. We are also told that you can “More Than DOUBLE Your Bank Every Month”. Again, this seems to be subject to combining the bank building staking plan for Odds On Investor with Terence Watkins’s tips. It is very conditional. Furthermore, it is based off just the first few months.
At the time of writing this, Bet Social Tipsters are showing that Terence Watkins has attained a BOG profit (the number I will be working off) of 175.25 points. I don’t think that is a great result for a service that is coming up to a year of being active. Of course, there is no denying that this is hugely impacted by a losing months for Odds On Investor of about 47 points and 38 points respectively.
Here’s the thing though. All of those results are based off 5 point stakes. This means that if you scale Odds On Investor down to 1 point stakes, you’re looking at just 35.05 points for the 11 months of betting. Even the ROI is incredibly disappointing in my opinion, coming it at just 9.68%. Whilst some might argue it isn’t terrible, it certainly isn’t good enough in my mind.
Conclusion for Odds On Investor
Let’s be incredibly frank here. Odds On Investor is bloody expensive. £97 a month is a huge amount of money to pay for a tipster service. It is more per month than you would pay for some of the better betting systems that I have looked at. So, straight away, there are a lot of questions about the value for money element. I am sure Terence Watkins and Bet Social Tipsters would disagree, but this is one of the most expensive services I’ve looked at for some time.
But it isn’t just that Odds On Investor is expensive. Far from it. There is also the fact that the results are… well, they’re just incredibly low. Even when you look at the 5 point stake profits, you’re looking at 175.25 points of profit. That would probably be classified as pretty bang average if I’m really blunt. When I see tipsters producing 200 plus points of profit per year, you can appreciate that there is a disconnect there.
It isn’t even like the results are consistent. There have been a couple of quite significant ups and downs over the year. All of which make this a much less appealing option. Especially because, in my opinion at least, they really highlight just how fragile Odds On Investor actually is. Let’s not forget that on those months where Terence Watkins has still hit a strike rate that is way above what most tipsters might hit, his selections have still lost money.
At this point, it might seem like I’m being incredibly harsh on Odds On Investor. And I’ll admit that to some degree, I am. If you’re going to demand a premium price for a service or product, you have to deliver a premium service or product. That doesn’t happen here. With that said though, I don’t think that Terence Watkins is a fraud or a charlatan either. His results ultimately speak for themselves. Bet Social Tipsters’s proofing shows that this has made a profit.
Unfortunately, that profit is a little bit inflated in my opinion. Here’s the thing. I can see why those 5 point stakes are used. You’re not betting on horses with big returns so you have to make every single win count. It makes sense. But you also have to acknowledge that this does inflate the results. And when you compare Odds On Investor to some other services that simply use 1 point stakes the results look drastically different.
Now, I will also acknowledge that Terence Watkins and Bet Social Tipsters have their bank building staking plan. This does make for a much more profitable service, but it is all still a question of scale. If you’re staking a percentage of your bank per point, and you’re staking 5 points on a bet. All of that can still be calculated as a single point bet.
And when you put Odds On Investor next to some competitors… well, things don’t look great. There are tipster services out there that cost less than a third of what Bet Social Tipsters are asking that, if scaled up would be on almost 500 points of profit in a shorter space of time. I know, I know. Apples and oranges. But this is the kind of thing I can’t afford to overlook when I review a service.
Bringing it all together, I just can’t really find a reason to recommend Odds On Investor. Again, is this a bad service? No. A profit is a profit, and ultimately, Terence Watkins has to be commended for that. But it isn’t enough of a profit in my opinion. In this line of work, the bottom line is often the bottom line. If you are charging a lot and not delivering, it simply isn’t good enough. And I don’t think there is really much more you can say than that.
