Pro Esports Bets is a new to market esports betting tipster service which is operated by James Greyson and his Uncle “Money Mick”. He claims that his service opens the door to significant profits and seemingly, little risk.
Introduction to Pro Esports Bets
I know that we’re all sick to the back teeth of hearing about Covid, but let’s be honest for a minute. It changed everything. Now one of the new things, a lot of tipsters came out of the woodwork claiming to be specialists on esports betting. And whilst I remain sceptical about the abilities of a lot of these tipsters, it opened my eyes to just how much you can bet on. I’d known that esports were a thing. Whilst not as avid as I used to be, I still like to play videogames and keep up with what’s what. But betting on it was a new angle.
This brings me to Pro Esports Bets. Because whilst this is an area that has slowed down as traditional sports have returned, it still remains a potentially lucrative market. And zz claims that his and his “Uncle Mick’s” selections can help you to harness that. But not just take a bit of profit… We’re talking huge income potential here. Which not surprisingly is a massive part of the appeal. But of course none of that means anything if zz and Uncle Mick can’t deliver.
Let’s be honest here. I don’t know of many (if any) tipster services that are consistently breaking five figures a month. Not without some substantial stakes. But at it’s core, that number is what zz is aiming for. Unfortunately (but probably not surprisingly), there are a large number of questions that hang over Pro Esports Bets. And rather unfortunately, very few of them are actually answered. So, let’s get straight into this and see if it’s worth your time.
What Does Pro Esports Bets Offer?
It’s always an interesting experience to look at a tipster service and realise that really, you aren’t told anything about it. Something that is almost painfully apparent when you look at Pro Esports Bets. Hand on heart, I can say that it has been a long time since I’ve looked at a tipster service that is so lacking in… Well, anything of substance.
That isn’t really the best start to looking at a tipster service. It also doesn’t really bode well for a lot of elements that I will cover over the course of this review. But the fact that zz chooses not to provide information for Pro Esports Bets doesn’t mean that you have to come into this blind. Because there is still some stuff that is worth talking about.
Now, first things first, I want to talk about the logistical elements. This is one area that I don’t think many tipsters can cock up in this day and age, if only because the internet has pretty much standardised the approach. So, I guess at least not everything about Pro Esports Bets has to be a negative.
This means that selections are sent out directly to subscribers via email. From here, zz says that all you have to do is place Uncle Mick’s bets, and make your profit. Of course, in theory, this sounds like a winner. Everything is nice and easy, right?
Well, unfortunately, not so much. Because the lack of information in the sales material also carries over to the actual content of Pro Esports Bets. You get enough basic information to actually place your bets and… Well, that’s about it, if I’m honest. And when I talk about placing your bets, that’s all on you. Zz says you just have to place them with a bookie. And that’s that.
Which means that it probably won’t come as a surprise to learn that I would definitely recommend using an odds comparison website if you are going to give Pro Esports Bets a go. The fact of the matter is that you just don’t get big odds when it comes to esports betting. Much like tennis or (to a lesser degree) football, there are limited outcomes, and bookies know this.
As such, whilst you might get value, you really want to be maximising your potential returns on every bet. The fact is that even if you can increase the odds you get by a tenth of a point, that all adds up over your full betting career. And because of that fact that zz doesn’t do more than the minimum, this is one of the best ways to do so.
In terms of the bets, there is a reasonable variety. But whilst there are a lot of betting markets within esports, zz and Uncle Mick don’t seem to really take full advantage of them. What they do do though, is offer a lot of betting advice. Whilst I wouldn’t call this a particularly high volume affair, nor does Pro Esports Bets seem to show anything that appears close to selective.
This leaves two things to discuss. Firstly, there is the staking plan. Or rather, the lack of a staking plan. Because the fact of the matter is that zz doesn’t provide any information about how much you should be staking. And that is something that is really quite concerning to me. In no small part, this is down to the fact that all of the income claims are in pounds and pence. I’ll talk about this later, but the lack of staking plan has a massive impact on these results.
It also raises another problem with Pro Esports Bets, if I’m completely honest. And that is the question of how much you need to get started. Because again, zz doesn’t provide you with any advice in this regard. It’s very difficult to know just what kind of betting bank you’d want. Realistically, I’d probably aim to have 100 points as a minimum, but this is basic information.
And finally, and sticking with the theme of a lack of information, there is that lack of strike rate. In and of itself, that doesn’t have to be a deal breaker, but when it’s just another thing about which there is no information. It kind of starts to be in my book. Especially because zz does really imply that Uncle Mick’s tips are somehow low risk.
How Does Pro Esports Bets Work?
Whilst there isn’t a whole lot that zz has to say about the service and what it entails, he is much more forthcoming about how Pro Esports Bets works. So long as you don’t want to scrutinise it too much that is. Because what you are dealing with here is very much a narrative rather than any really factual information. Which just adds to that growing list of concerns.
What we are told is that zz was “on the cusp of becoming a professional esports star” and that he’d been “presented with an amazing contract” before slamming his hand in a car door. This ruined his potential gaming career. In a slump because of this, we are then told that his Uncle Mick came to visit him and they started talking about gambling.
Of course, not at all surprisingly, the pair connected over this and decided to go into betting on esports. We then told that they were “examining charts and graphs” and from there, it has developed into the system behind Pro Esports Bets. Now the astute amongst you may have picked up on the fact that there is no mention of what this system might be. You are effectively taking zz’s word that he and Uncle Mick have something in place. That is a bit suspect.
As well as that lack of information, there is just a general lack of evidence backing up absolutely anything. Zz provides nothing. Not even any basic proofing, despite supposedly running Pro Esports Bets with Uncle Mick for the some time now. You’d think at through this period of time, either they or a client would have something genuine. Instead, we get some dodgy testimonials featuring images that
What is the Initial Investment?
If you want to sign up for Pro Esports Bets, there is only one option made available. This is a one time cost of £29.99 (plus VAT) for which you seemingly get a lifetime of access. Of course, this is the lifetime of the product. And quite how long this lifetime will last is a very different question. But on paper, it does represent pretty good value for money.
As well as this low price, Pro Esports Bets also comes with a full 60 day money back guarantee. This is backed up by Clickbank who zz and Uncle Mick are selling the service through. And one of the very few things that I think you can genuinely credit this with, is that this money back guarantee is well advertised.
What is the Rate of Return?
How would you feel about making £163,876.24 in a year? Or £13,000 in a month? Those are huge amounts of money. And they also happen to be what zz claims that you can make by following him and Uncle Mick. But this raises more questions for Pro Esports Bets than it answers really, and to address that, I have to come back to the (lack of a) staking plan.
You see, that number doesn’t really mean anything. How much is being staked for those kinds of returns? Because if you’re staking £1,000 per point, then that’s a pretty modest number for the year. And dare I say, 163 points isn’t outside of the realm of possibility. But at £100 stakes (which I’d still consider to be more than most people will bet), that becomes 1,638 points. That would mean Pro Esports Bets is making 5 times what a decent genuine tipster will.
And of course, just to drag up that point from earlier, it isn’t even like there’s any way of contextualising these profits. There is no proofing for Pro Esports Bets and as I’ve said, zz doesn’t really talk about how much he and Uncle Mick are staking. Information that coincidentally is also missing from the testimonials.
Conclusion for Pro Esports Bets
There’s a lot to be sceptical about with Pro Esports Bets. In my mind, that goes without saying. But there’s just so much of it that it really does make it difficult to know where to start wrapping up. Do you talk about the blatant effort to obfuscate any information of worth? Do you focus in on the fact that whilst zz makes a grand show of he and Uncle Mick’s experience, he doesn’t actually say anything of note? Or do you start by breaking down that ludicrous income claim?
Honestly, given that I have no idea where to start, I’ll just follow the order I listed them in. First things first, missing information. I can forgive that to some degree. At the end of the day, the sales material for any service is… Well, it’s designed to sell. And to sell things, I’ll conceded that you can’t really just be “warts and all”.
But there is being frugal with the truth and just seemingly going out of your way to avoid having to provide information. Looking at Pro Esports Bets, that latter part is what I see. This isn’t somebody being tactful. It’s somebody who seems to be deliberately using a lack of insight to bring in those who just don’t know different.
Moving on from that, let’s talk about the whole “how Pro Esports Bets works thing”. Once again, I can understand and forgive some lack of information. No tipster wants to give away their selection process for free. But that insight is important, and as much as zz and Uncle Mick might think that simply claiming to be a pro bettor and a near pro gamer is a replacement, it just isn’t.
If I’m honest, in light of the fact that there really isn’t a lot here that seems to be genuine, it only adds to how questionable Pro Esports Bets actually is. I mean, it’s not even like we get any evidence that the pair are doing what they claim. Once again, you’re just stuck taking their word that “like, honestly, it’s all really good mate”.
And the main reason that they can get away with this is because the whole thing is set to appeal to people’s greed. Any serious bettor will tell you that the claimed income just isn’t really feasible. Don’t get me wrong, plenty of people make a good living off betting, but £163,000? Without any proofing at all, I don’t think you can be anything but sceptical really.
So, with all of that out there, it probably won’t come as a surprise that I can’t really look to recommend Pro Esports Bets. If you really start to scrutinise things, I can’t help but feel that it’s nothing but a cynical ploy to cash in on the fact that, at the time of writing, there are fears about a second lockdown in the UK. And if you’re a bettor, the potential lack of sports. Now I know this might sound like a wild claim, but in the affiliate materials, a big thing out of the fact that this is “Covidproof”.
There isn’t even anything that I can say is really a positive about it. I guess it’s cheap enough at £30? But with that said, as I’ve highlighted many times before now, if you don’t pay a lot for a bad product, you’re still paying for a bad product.