SureWin Snowy Review Philip Griffiths

SureWin Snowy is a new to market horse racing tipster service which is operated by Philip “Snowy” Griffiths. The tipster stable behind the service, SureWin make some pretty bold claims.

Introduction to SureWin Snowy

I’ll be completely upfront here. SureWin Snowy isn’t my first rodeo with Philip Griffiths. In fact, he has actually cropped up before now a few times in my capacity as a reviewer. But he is now partnering with a new tipster stable. This “new service” seems to simply be a continuation of his own services, but, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Right? Well, you could certainly be inclined to think so. But what about when things don’t do so well?

And this is really one of the key questions that hangs over SureWin Snowy. A service that has ultimately performed well in its previous iterations. Unfortunately, there seems to have been a bit of a swing in those results. Now, what is interesting about this is that Philip Griffiths has always been a “long term bettor”. And this is how SureWin are keen to present him. My opinion though is this. If people are just losing money from the get go, they are just losing money.

All of this makes for quite an interesting tipster service. Because there are two very polarising ways of looking at it all. One of them, shows a service that is still ultimately performing very well. The other shows a tipster service that has completely fallen by the wayside. Which is it though? Let’s jump straight into SureWin Snowy and find out.

What Does SureWin Snowy Offer?

So, what exactly are you getting into with SureWin Snowy? There are two answers to this, and both of them present themselves as very interesting. Firstly, you get unparalleled access to the selections of a tipster who has been in the betting game for over 16 years. Now this kind of claim is made often. I rarely believe them. But with Philip Griffiths, I do.

The second thing that you are getting access to is a long standing service which is being managed by a professional tipster stable in the shape of SureWin. This second part is quite noteworthy because historically, Philip Griffiths has gone it alone. However, having a management team in place certainly can’t harm matters.

Outside of that, much of what is happening with SureWin Snowy are the same kinds of things that I’ve seen from Philip Griffiths in the past. The way that he operates his tipster services have always been pretty straightforward (with one notable exception, but I’ll come to that later). Something that I am inclined to consider a bit of a boon.

SureWin Snowy is a horse racing service. As you would expect from any tipster in the modern age, selections are sent out directly via email to Philip Griffiths’ subscribers on a near daily basis.  They are also uploaded to a member’s area on the SureWin website. This offers some variety in terms of accessing selections.

Now, SureWin say that all selections will typically be sent out around 8am. This is a massive positive for SureWin Snowy as far too many tipsters prefer to send out selections later in the day. This of course means no end of problems for those who work a 9-5.

One thing where I think Philip Griffiths should be commended is in terms of the quality of the emails that he sends out. Far too many tipsters are happy to just bang out a horse, a track, and a time. In the case of SureWin Snowy though, there is clearly some research goes into it all. This includes information on odds which is a very important one.

With that said, because of the nature of Philip Griffiths’ tips, if I were following SureWin Snowy, I would still probably look to use an odds comparison site. The fact is that prices do tend to shorten and as such, you should be looking to get the best possible odds you can when you are placing your bets.

In terms of the bets themselves, there is a healthy mixture of straight win and each way bets. Typically speaking, the longer the odds, the more likely Philip Griffiths is to advise a bet as each way. Which of course makes perfect sense.

It is also worth noting that the proofing SureWin provide for SureWin Snowy shows that this isn’t a particularly high volume tipster service. Even over the festivals where Philip Griffiths is at his busiest, there were no more than 8 selections advised in a given day. However, this is not really representative of the four or so bets that seem to be a more typical maximum.

All of this sounds pretty good so far, however, it is no time to come to what I believe is the biggest criticism when it comes to SureWin Snowy. That is the staking plan. Philip Griffiths has always been a fan of higher stakes. The fact is that despite a claim of his “staking plan nowadays [being] lower than it used to be” you are still dealing with very high numbersfor Joe Average.

Some bets are advised at as much as 6 points on a given bet. The vast majority fall between 2 and 5 points. Make no mistake that following SureWin Snowy is a very expensive endeavour. Unfortunately, I haven’t seen any advice in terms of a betting bank, however, I would say that you’d need 200 points as a minimum if you were following Philip Griffiths’ advice. I will explore the reasons for this later on.

Finally, we come to strike rate for SureWin Snowy. Once again, referring to the proofing SureWin have carried out, Philip Griffiths has attained 28.33%. Given that this goes all the way back to April 2016, I think it is probably a pretty good reflection of the wider potential here. If I signed up today though, I would expect a much lower figure.  

How Does SureWin Snowy Work?

One of the things that I like about Philip Griffiths is that he is very upfront about how he does things. From his regaling us with tales of being a involved with horse racing from an early age, through to working for bookmakers, and more. I believe every single word of it. Which isn’t something that I typically find.

More importantly, Philip Griffiths provides SureWin with a lot of insight into how his selections are found. The full description can be found on the sales page, but I will summarise it a little here. Firstly, we are told that SureWin Snowy is based on a number of considerations. However, there are a few factors we are told are considered “before virtually every bet [he has] nowadays”.

These include “freshness” (how long since a horse last had a run out), the ground, pace, track suitability, stable form, handicaps. The list just goes on and on. And all of those have a description of why they are important. There is absolutely no denying that Philip Griffiths knows what he is talking about.

When this is combined with the comprehensive proofing that SureWin offer for SureWin Snowy, it is difficult to look at this and say that you don’t really know what you are getting yourself into. It’s very much there for everybody to see. All of this really counts as a positive here, which is good. Because Philip Griffiths needs everything that he can get really…

What is the Initial Investment?

At the time of writing, SureWin offer two different subscriptions for SureWin Snowy. The first of these is a monthly option which is priced at £39 (inclusive of VAT). Alternatively, you can sign up on a quarterly basis at a cost of £87.84 per quarter (again, inclusive of VAT).

Whichever option you choose to go for, there is a 28 day trial available for those who are new to Philip Griffiths. This gives you full access to selections for a one off cost of just £1.99, after which you revert to a full subscription.

On top of all of this, SureWin Snowy also comes with a full 30 day money back guarantee. This is backed up by the fact that the service is being sold through the Clickbank platform. Generally speaking, this means that you won’t have any problems claiming this if you are so inclined (so long as you don’t constantly buy and return products through them).

What is the Rate of Return?

Now, let’s get down to brass tacks. Because the best and the worst of SureWin Snowy lies in the profit and loss. First things first, let’s look big picture. In the proofing SureWin and Philip Griffiths proudly talk of a profit of 1,059.19 points to BOG. We’re a shade over 4 years into this proofing which means that there is an average of about 250 points per year. That isn’t bad at all. However, this number increases by an extra 420 points if you were betting to BOG.

With that said, let’s talk about the more recent run of form. Specifically, the whole of 2020. You see, I’ve done some calculating. And whilst there might be some small margin of error (there is a lot of data to work with), I’ve calculated that to advised odds, SureWin Snowy is some 117 point in the red. This is a very substantial loss.

Now I am sure that Philip Griffiths would defend himself and talk about the fact that on the whole, SureWin Snowy is up. Which it is for him. And that is an argument to be had. But the reality is that if you signed up for this at any point during 2020, you would now be worse off than you were at the start.

Conclusion for SureWin Snowy

 Historically, I have praised Philip Griffiths. When he was operating as an independent, the profit potential in his services were quite apparent to see. Unfortunately, I don’t believe that the same can really be said about SureWin Snowy as it is. My reasoning for this probably won’t come as a surprise to… Well anyone really, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t consider it to be a bit of a shame.

So, let’s be blunt about this. Losing out on 117 points just isn’t good enough. I know that there is plenty to be said about long term profits and the like, but I would challenge anybody to say that they would be OK with a tipster who effectively lost them a full betting bank in less than a year.

But it isn’t just the amount of money that you lose to betting, it is also how much you have paid out in subs too. At £10 per point, you are looking at a loss of £1,170. But on top of this, you have also paid out close to an additional £200 for the privilege of this loss. It simply doesn’t add up from a financial position.

Now we come to why I consider all of this to be a shame. And that is because I know that Philip Griffiths has something going on in the background. As well as the consistent long term profits showing this, there is simply the fact that he has operated a tipster service in some capacity or another for some 4 years. That isn’t the kind of thing that happens very often.

So here’s what we have. A tipster who is generally pretty good who has hit a bad run of form. Would said tipster be tipping a horse with bad form? Probably not. So why would I recommend a tipster that has hit the same?

The fact of the matter is that I don’t believe that Philip Griffiths is really down and out in any real capacity. Eventually, I believe that he may turn around the loss that 2020 has endured. And in some respects, I don’t think that it is entirely his fault. The fact is that SureWin Snowy isn’t the only long standing service that has been hit by the effects Covid-19 has had on racing.

Put simply though, here and now, SureWin Snowy just isn’t performing. Now I am inclined to say that it might be worth keeping half an eye on this. The fact is that Philip Griffiths doesn’t have to turn around the full 117 point loss to make sense. He just needs to start making some money.

It that happens, then SureWin Snowy may be worth your consideration. But honestly, I can’t help but feel like this is a pretty big if. And I would probably want to see at least a good few months of profit before I considered this to have in any way broken that run of negative form.  But in its current form, I really can’t recommend Philip Griffiths’ service.  

 

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