Trainer Selector Review Best System Bets

Trainer Selector is a relatively new to market horse racing tipster service which comes courtesy of Dominic Shaw and Best System Bets. He claims that his service is able to produce some very strong profits using a very specific technique.

Introduction to Trainer Selector

About a year ago, I looked at a product called Jockey Selector. It was a horse racing tipster service that claimed to make some very strong profits through simply backing horses based off the form of the jockey. Honestly, I was a little bit sceptical about this. The fact is that the tipster behind the service, Dominic Shaw, was claiming that this gives you some incredible edge over the bookies. However, I posited, this is quite a simple thing that the bookies aren’t likely to overlook.

Well, we are back with Dominic Shaw and his latest product, Trainer Selector. You can probably guess what this is about by now. But the fact of the matter is that there are also some very strong profits being claimed here. And as such, it would be somewhat remiss of me to simply ignore an opportunity. And it could well be that there is be something different here. This new service might have that killer element that Jockey Selector was missing.

Of course, it could also just be more of the same with the same kinds of issues. But really, only time will tell there. The truth is, the numbers look good. But Trainer Selector could well be like Star Wars: The Force Awakens. Hitting all the same key points as its predecessor, just in a shiny new coat (an analogy that I am slightly ashamed of making). Let’s have a look and see.

What Does Trainer Selector Offer?

Straight off the bat, I think that one of the key things to address with Trainer Selector is what the service entails. And I say this because I will be drawing some comparisons with the previous Jockey Selector service. I think it is quite important to look at the parallels and where that is now, in order to get a feel for where Dominic Shaw may take this in the future.

Starting with the logistics, it might not come as any surprise to learn that Trainer Selector is hardly breaking new ground. This is a daily service with selections sent out directly to subscribers via email. All that you have to do is place the bets.

Now one thing that immediately stands out as not being quite ideal about Trainer Selector is the timing of bets. These are sent out around 10.30am. This has two negatives in my opinion. Firstly, there is the fact that if you work a 9-5 (as most people do), you may struggle to get bets on. And secondly, that late in the morning can mean some shortening odds.

The worst part about this in my book is that there shouldn’t even be the need to send these bets out this late in the morning. I’ll talk more about Dominic Shaw’s approach, but since this is entirely about trainers, I don’t really see how last minute information helps. Either a trainer is in form and doing well, or they’re not. But I will admit that is a bit speculative on my behalf (although nor is it something that is explained by Dominic Shaw either).  

Returning to those emails for a minute, there is some rather rudimentary advice in place. Realistically though, I would definitely be using an odds comparison website if I were following Trainer Selector. That is generally my advice anyway, but with something like this it can make all the difference.

And that is down to, not surprisingly, the odds. You see, Dominic Shaw says that Trainer Selector subscribers will get odds ranging form evens up to 18/1. What this suggests to me is that you are going to get a lot of stuff that is in the lower to middling range with the occasional outsider. Now, there is very limited evidence that this isn’t the case, but I don’t count 4 betting slips as comprehensive.

What all of this means is that realistically, you really need to ensuring that you’re maximising what you can earn from your bets. Especially in light of the fact that I’m also not convinced that you’ll be winning that often. But I’ll come back to this a little later on when I talk about the strike rate (or lack thereof).

Now sticking with the topic of bets, it would appear that all bets that you receive are straight win bets. That was the case with Jockey Selector and I see no reason why Dominic Shaw would want to change his formula with Trainer Selector. This is also supported by the evidence provided. However, the testimonials are quick to insinuate that you can combine them into accas or back them each way and still make a profit.

Finally, whilst I’m still on that topic of bets, I want to talk about the volume of bets. Because Dominic Shaw says that Trainer Selector subscribers can expect anywhere from 2 bets per day, all the way up to 6 bets per day. That sounds manageable. However, you should keep in mind that these numbers can really start to add up and that effectively, you are looking at anywhere from 14-42 bets per week.

Fortunately, the staking plan for Trainer Selector is pretty straight forward. All bets are advised to be backed to level stakes of 1 point per bet. This means that the highest theoretical drawdown would be 42 points per week, although this strikes me as being unlikely. What is concerning however is that there is no insight into a betting bank.

Personally, I like to plan for the worst in this regard and, as such, I would probably look to have 150 points available. It strikes me that Dominic Shaw would probably recommend less than this, but I also feel that is in part down to his measure of success.

You see, Trainer Selector doesn’t have a strike rate. What we are given are just 2 days of Cheltenham betting slips which show 5 bets placed and just 1 loser. Obviously, an 80% strike rate just isn’t on the cards. But nor does Dominic Shaw go out of his way to talk about this or provide wider context for his results.

Combine this with a very distinctive lack of proofing and honestly, I can’t help but hold this against Trainer Selector. Dominic Shaw provides 12 months of results that show profits across the board, so he has clearly been keeping records somewhere. So why aren’t these records shared in any detail outside of simply how much money has supposedly been made? Honestly, that just seems like a red flag to me.  

How Does Trainer Selector Work?

Now we come to the part of Trainer Selector that is arguably most interesting to me. As the name suggests, Trainer Selector is based around backing horses of a certain trainer. Specifically, “high-performing trainers from respected yards”. And in having this focus, Dominic Shaw says that he is able to detect “the seasonal patters and course preferences of the best trainers in racing”.

Interestingly to me, gone are the claims that were made with Jockey Selector in which we were told about how bookies overlook this element and that is where there is a killing to be made. Instead, we are simply told about “5-filter trainer statistics”.

What is really interesting to me about Trainer Selector though is something that rather flies under the radar. You see, Dominic Shaw says that there is just “1 high-profile Trainer selected every day”. This raises some questions for me about how exactly you are getting the best value out of Trainer Selector. Because whilst the implication is that this trainer should have the best day, it ignores the value that potentially is out there in other trainers.

Of course, none of this actually tells us anything tangible. Dominic Shaw is simply describing a good idea at this point. It certainly sounds like Trainer Selector has a solid underpinning, but what are you really told about the selection process? Combine this with a lack of proofing and all of this just doesn’t quite sit right with me. You’re being asked to take the word of the one man who definitively stands to profit.

What is the Initial Investment?

Trainer Selector is a Best System Bets product, and as such, they always have the same highly convoluted and frankly rather concerning pricing structure. What we are told is that is you are interested in signing up, then there are two differing pricing structures that are available.

Firstly, you can sign up to receive Dominic Shaw’s selections through his own proprietary payment platform. This is, by a country mile, the cheapest way of signing up, however your purchases do become much more restrictive if you take this option.

The first subscription option for Trainer Selector is a 7 day free trial, after which it is then priced at £19.95 (plus VAT) per month.  As well as this, there is an option for a quarterly subscription which is priced at just £29.95 every 3 months(again, plus VAT).

If you are looking for a longer subscription than this, then Best System Bets offer a few options for Trainer Selector on an annual subscription at a cost of £59 (plus VAT). Finally, there is a lifetime license which Best System Bets offer. This allows you to sign up, for life, for a one time cost of £97 (again, plus VAT) however this is advertised as a limited time offer.

As well as this option, Trainer Selector is also being sold directly through Clickbank. This comes with a full 30 day money back guarantee. It is however, as I mentioned earlier by far the priciest option. If you want to buy this way, you can expect to pay £99 plus VAT. This gets you a 6 month subscription.

If you want to sign up for this for the full year, there is an additional 6 month “top up”. This requires an upfront cost of an additional £89 (plus VAT).

This means that over the course of a whole year, using Best System Bets’s payment platform, would mean that you see a very substantial £130 discount. This is of course compared to the cost of Trainer Selector when purchased through Clickbank.

What is the Rate of Return?

In terms of the profit, there are a few things that we are told. The headline for Trainer Selector is all about getting daily winners at up to 18/1. This approach to demonstrating profit potential is continued in the sales material when Dominic Shaw says that “30 POINT ONE-DAY GAINS CAN BE MADE!!!”.

Elsewhere in the sales material, we see a breakdown of bets over a 12 month period, January through December. We aren’t provided any real context for this outside of it being “over the last 12 months”. What it does show is an overall profit of £24,330. Using the £100 stakes Dominic Shaw shows in his “evidence” for Trainer Selector (taken from Cheltenham in March) it seems reasonable to ascertain this means 243.3 points.

Conclusion for Trainer Selector

 Trainer Selector is one of those tipster service that if you simply look at it and don’t think too hard, it has clear appeal. Let’s be honest, if you had a tipster service that could demonstrate that it has had 12 winning months on the bounce, with a smallest profit of 10.7 points… Well, that’d be very good cause to get excited. It’s almost too good to be true.

Unfortunately though, that is very much a hypothetical in my opinion. As, frankly, are those “30 POINT ONE-DAY GAINS”, which actually are apparently based off Dominic Shaw’s other betting system. Because after this eye grabbing headline, we are told that “As you may know from Jockey Selector, it is extremely easy to make a 30 point gain in only one day”. It is noteworthy that at no point is Trainer Selector actually mentioned in relation to this.

Straight away, all of this sets alarm bells ringing for me. There is little denying that Trainer Selector looks good.  But inevitably, this is by design. Dominic Shaw has a service to sell. But what evidence do you actually get that any of it is achievable? 2 days worth of bets from Cheltenham?

 Look, I get it, the whole pandemic situation has had a massive impact on the betting market. There may be substantial gaps in terms of results because of it. But in the case of Trainer Selector, we are being told that there are 12 months of results. So why can’t that be demonstrated as proofing? Especially in the light of, really, no other evidence backing up the claims that are made.

When you combine this with the pricing structure that Best System Bets prefer, it just sets alarm bells ringing for me. I have long questioned why you would go so far out of your way to not offer your customers a money back guarantee. Especially if your service genuinely carries the potential that you claim.

I can say with confidence though that you can put all of that aside, because what I really see when I look at Trainer Selector is just that lack of evidence. Sure, saying you’re focusing on certain trainers sounds very reasonable. It certainly sounds more plausible to me than Dominic Shaw’s claims that he made about focusing on jockeys in Jockey Selector…

But when it all really boils down to it (and I know I’m repeating myself); you’re just taking Dominic Shaw’s word that this works. You are giving the one person who categorically stands to benefit from selling his system money, on the assumption that he is being honest about these results. The same person who encourages you to give up longer term refund policies with substantial discounts.

That to me is ultimately pretty telling. And I don’t believe that I have ever really looked at a genuine tipster service that takes this approach. Because of all that, I can’t bring myself to recommend Trainer Selector. The fact is that there are some very good tipsters out there producing genuine and proven profits.

Sure, you might pay a little more, but if it demonstrably works. I would rather pay a bit more for quality rather than taking a blind punt on the word of a salesman. And make no mistake, in this case, that is exactly the role that Dominic Shaw and Best System Bets are playing here.

 

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From: Simon Roberts