Treble Tips is a new to market sports betting tipster service which is operated by Steve Hudson. This latest offering is based around building profit through winning treble bets.
Introduction to Treble Tips
I don’t want to mince my words here. There is a a lot of crap on the market for those who are looking for a tipster service. From claims of smashing 6 figures a year, to tipsters that say that you will win around 90% of their bets. All whilst being entirely unsubstantiated of course, with very little evidence backing any of these claims up.
Then you have tipsters that seem to sit somewhere in the middle. There are tipsters out there who I believe are actually genuine, but perhaps the results are not necessarily all that they seem to be. And that brings me to the subject of today’s review. Treble Tips. A tipster service that does what it says on the tin. It also happens to be operated by one Steve Hudson, a name that is known to me.
In fact, I’ve looked at things from Steve Hudson before and there is very much a formula that he has going when it comes to football betting. Whether or not this is a good thing or not is very dependent on what you are looking for from a tipster service. And the same is very much applicable when it comes to Treble Tips. So, is this something that will tick your boxes? Let’s jump right in and find out.
What Does Treble Tips Offer?
As I’ve already sad, what you are effectively getting when you sign up for Treble Tips is right there in the name. This is a tipster service which is based around treble bets. I wish I could wrap up there, but honestly, there is actually quiet a lot to consider for a service that has such a seemingly simplistic concept.
First things first, you have to talk about the fact that Treble Tips is a football based tipster service. This means that you will not be getting selections throughout the week. Instead, Steve Hudson issues his bets in time for the weekend. Usually, these will land on the Friday morning giving you plenty of time to place bets.
There are however times when Steve Hudson says that you will receive bets on the Thursday if Treble Tips is taking advantage of earlier games, and occasionally, you will also receive bets for mid-week when there are tournaments on. But this is very much a rarity.
As is the case with so many modern tipster services, these are sent out directly via email. All that you have to do is place these bets at the recommended odds. Now, Steve Hudson says that you shouldn’t have any trouble getting the same odds that he gets, however I’m not convinced on this unless you are incredibly quick off the mark. What is worth keeping in mind though is that these odds are advised with a certain bookie.
As such, if you do find that you are struggling to get the same odds, there is always an opportunity to use something like Oddschecker. This may not lead to you getting the same odds as those recommended, but you can at least know that you are following Treble Tips with a close second.
In terms of the bets, there is plenty of variety there. Sure, Treble Tips is ultimately concerned with placing trebles, but it is more complicated than that. You will predominantly be looking at European leagues in a wide variety of markets. These can range from a team to win, double chance bets, or even some goals markets.
Naturally, there is a range of odds available, however they may not be what you expect. Because you are dealing with smaller accumulators, you would be forgiven for thinking that you will get longer odds. Instead, Steve Hudson’s proofing for Treble Tips shows that most of the bets come in at less than evens, going about as high as 3/1 with the occasional exception.
Volume wise, there isn’t a massive amount of cause to be concern. Most weeks you will get between 3 and 5 bets. This means that Treble Tips is a very manageable service which isn’t a bad thing. What it doesn’t mean however is that you will not be betting a lot.
This brings me to the staking plan that is in place. For the majority of bets advised, Steve Hudson recommends staking 5 points per bet. When you look at the odds involved, this does make sense and seems like a pretty prudent investment. However that high staking plan can have a knock on effect with Treble Tips. This is somewhat mitigated by those longer odds bets only being backed to 2.5 points.
Even factoring in that though, with a betting bank of just 100 points, there is a lot of scope for things to take a turn for the worse here. Especially because the odds involved mean that it can often take several winning bets just to cover a single losing one.
Fortunately, you shouldn’t be losing too often according to Steve Hudson. By the end of October, Treble Tips had supposedly attained a strike rate that stands at 61.16%. A very respectable number indeed and one that is significantly higher than you would perhaps expect from a service of this nature. And supposedly, November has continued in a similar vein.
It also worth mentioning that you get access to Steve G’s Racing Expert for 3 months when you sign up to Treble Tips. This wouldn’t have any bearing on my opinion of Treble Tips as a service, however it would be prudent of me not to mention that this is indeed a part of the offering.
How Does Treble Tips Work?
When it comes to what is involved with Treble Tips, there isn’t a whole lot of information provided. This is hugely disappointing to me. As I’ve said numerous times before now, I don’t expect a tipster to give away the full details of what their selection process entails, but I do think that you should receive enough to make an informed decision.
Given that Steve Hudson simply appears to focus on the idea of just using treble bets is a strategy, that doesn’t really allow you to make that informed decision. Honestly, I don’t even see the mention of value holding much weight here. The bets that I have seen from Treble Tips do not seem to carry a whole lot of that.
In fact, I would go as far as to say that most of Steve Hudson’s selections are all simply common sense selections. Would you back Aston Villa to beat Manchester City? Of course not. And nor does Steve Hudson. Would you bet on England to beat Kosovo or Germany to beat Belarus? Those are the kinds of bets that are involved with Treble Tips.
Now, there is potentially an argument that all of this is mitigated by the inclusion of full proofing for Treble Tips. Something that is very much welcome, however, I find it rather misleading of me to say full. Because the truth of the matter is that Steve Hudson’s proofing appears to have simply stopped once the service launched. Something that I have seen on his other services.
What is the Initial Investment?
There are two different options that are available for Treble Tips at the time of writing. First of all, there is a monthly subscription which is priced at £14.95 per month (plus VAT). Honestly, given the results that have supposedly been attained, that makes Steve Hudson’s selections a bargain.
Alternatively, and representing even better value, is the option to sign up to Treble Tips for a full year. This is priced at £79 (again, plus VAT) for the year, however this is claimed to be a limited time offer. Once this has elapsed, you will supposedly pay the full 12 months cost of £179.40.
Both of these subscriptions come with a full 60 day money back guarantee. This is offered through Clickbank (the platform Steve Hudson is selling Treble Tips through) which means that you shouldn’t struggle too much in terms of claiming this.
What is the Rate of Return?
Steve Hudson is very keen to big Treble Tips up as having made £17,727.50 in 7 months. That sounds very impressive, as does the claimed monthly average of £4,160. However, these numbers only paint one part of the picture. You see, they are based around £100 per point bets. As such, this can easily be recalculated as a 177.2 point profit.
This is still a pretty good figure, however I also feel that it would be prudent of me not to mention that it is also based off significant stakes. Now I will admit that there are a few bets that have been some bets that are advised at 2.5 points, so let’s be generous and say that the average stake is 3.5 (although I suspect it would be closer to 4-4.5).
This means that those numbers can easily be scaled down to just 59 points. And that is being generous. This means that whilst those results look very strong when you first look at them, there are a lot of factors that really impact what you can earn.
Conclusion for Treble Tips
I’m very much conflicted when it comes to Treble Tips, and there are two key reasons for this. First of all, there is how much weight to put behind Steve Hudson’s claims. There is quite a lot to this, so it is where I will start.
First things first, that proofing looks to be pretty solid, however from what I have seen so far, it doesn’t seem to be updating. This is in line with what I have seen from other services from Steve Hudson, and I won’t lie, it leads me to wonder what is happening once those initial results have come in.
I’m absolutely not trying to insinuate anything here, but it is very easy to demonstrate winning bets for games that have all played out before anybody can compare them to your tips. This is something that hasn’t ever been cleared up, but there are other factors to this that concern me.
You see, Steve Hudson’s name is pretty well known when it comes to football betting. And when you start talking to people who have followed him for longer than others, well, the long term potential appears to be lacking a little.
This is something that I think is definitely on show when you start to break down the results for Treble Tips. Sure, at a glance, it looks like Steve Hudson has smashed it out of the park with that £17,000 figure. But that can very reasonably broken down into a much more modest profit.
Don’t get me wrong, that doesn’t necessarily mean that you should come into Treble Tips being entirely dismissive. There is very clear potential to the results and I don’t think that Steve Hudson is asking a lot of money. Furthermore, the 60 day money back guarantee means that you can follow his advice for a few months and get a feel for that longer term potential.
So, what’s the bottom line here? Personally, I don’t think that I would be inclined to follow Treble Tips. I’ve seen enough of Steve Hudson to be a little bit wary of investing time pursuing long term profits. And if I’m entirely honest, I don’t really have time to spend on things that might work. I like to look for things that will work. Especially when profits have been somewhat inflated.
With that said, if time is something that you have plenty of, then you may want to look at trialing the service and see if it is something that will work for you. Because at just £14.95 per month, there is also an argument to be made that the profits don’t have to be as high as if you were paying a higher premium.
Keeping all that in mind, if you fall into the latter camp (and really don’t mind taking a bit of a punt to paper trade), then Treble Tips might. Be worth a look. But for my money, there are better and more proven betting systems that are currently on the market.
He is another of those guys that I tested, because I knew that he is one of the few half way honest guys out there, compared to all the scamming scum.
I’ve been with Treble Tips for about 3 months now, and will run it until the end of the season to get a solid look at it. But I have to agree with so many things you mentioned above.
Biggest disappointment with this service is the selection tho in my opinion.
When I checked the site and the sheet he offers with all his previous bets, you can lots of good value bets with decent odds. Yet after a bit more than 3 months, the average odds I take with his trebles are 1.65, his own odds from the mails are at 1.62.
In all honesty, I don’t need to pay someone a penny to give me 3 selections with 1.05 to 1.18 odds – I can do this myself. I expected a lot more of this service, with bets I wouldn’t see myself because of a “rare” market selection, or because it is a league I am not too common with.
But betting on Liverpool +0.5 against Burnley for 1.06 odds, that is not something I am willing to pay for, yet I do it which is weird but you get what I mean.
Since 9/10 Trebles are 5 units while the other is a 2.5 uni bet (the 1% he goes above 2 or 2.1 odds that is – which seems to be risky already for him), I just treated each treble as a single unit bet for myself, I am down 6 units in these 3 months, which is not the end of the world. But at these odds he is taking, he needs to win at least 70% to really make profit and cover the monthly/yearly subscription. And no matter how “safe” you consider a 1.1 bet, in a Treble nothing is that safe anymore.
So the figures he made up are obviously wrong to me.
L like to join and l am ready to receive your tips