Win Leader Review

Win Leader is a new horse racing tipster service which is being operated by the very aptly named Julian Winmore. He claims that you can obtain financial freedom, simply by following his betting advice.

Introduction to Win Leader

According to Julian Winmore, Win Leader is “The ONLY Betting System You Will EVER Need !”. And to back this up, there is a screenshot of a William Hill betting account that shows more than £10,000 sitting in it. An admittedly highly questionable screenshot. In which the font is different and the text clearer than the rest of the image.

So, maybe Win Leader is unlikely to turn out to be all that it is claimed to be. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that there is a bad tipster service underpinning everything, right? I mean, even if you can get half of what is claimed on the income potential, you’d be doing well.

But that seems to be a pretty big if. Frankly, having looked over Julian Winmore’s service before writing anything for this, I can say that there are more questions raised than there answered. That doesn’t bode well for the service. There are also a number of issues that I have at the back end. But, none the less, I could be wrong and Win Leader does deserve a fair chance.

So, with an open mind, let’s take a look and see whether or not this is really one to get on board with.

What Does Win Leader Offer?

Trying to ascertain what is on offer with Win Leader is a rather interesting thing. This is mostly because there are two very different elements that are at play here. First of all, you have what the service actually entails. This  will be the focus of this part of the review, however Julian Winmore also has a lot to say about what you are getting access to through him, but I will return to this.

First things first, I don’t feel like it should come as any real surprise to learn that as far as tipster services go, Win Leader is about as straight forward as it comes. Selections are sent on a near daily basis to subscribers. These contain pretty basic information, however there is enough to know what you are betting on.

What it doesn’t really include is information on what kinds of odds you should be aiming for. This isn’t overly surprising to me with Julian Winmore stating in the sales material that you should simply “get those bets placed online or at your local bookies”. Not surprisingly, a bookmaker with BOG and Oddschecker will take you far if you decide to follow Win Leader.

As is typical in the tipster industry, selections are sent out directly via email. Julian Winmore also has his own “punters suite” where selections are uploaded as well. This is incredibly basic however and doesn’t warrant much in the way of attention.

In terms of the bets, there are seemingly a number of elements with Julian Winmore actually saying in the sales material that you are told the “type of bet to place”. From what I have seen though, you will be almost exclusively be dealing with straight win bets.

Now, there are a lot of elements relating to Win Leader that are all ultimately very straight forward. This includes the volume of bets and the odds that you will be backing. Again, I can only refer back to what I have seen to date, however you are looking at just 2 or 3 bets, all at pretty middling odds.

Yet another element that fits in with this is the staking plan. Julian Winmore makes mention of the fact that when he sends out details of the selections, you receive details on what to stake. Everything that I have looked at suggests that this will simply be a case of betting to simple level stakes.

There doesn’t appear to be any variation in which there is a staking “plan” per se. Combine this with no real information on what kind of betting bank you need, and this becomes yet another element of Win Leader that is somewhat concerning. Personally, I would look at a minimum of 150 points, just on the off chance you do end up betting more than 1 point per bet.

Finally, I want to talk about the strike rate. Or more specifically, the lack thereof. Now, Julian Winmore says that his strike rate is “second to none”, however there are no specific numerical claims here. Nor, not surprisingly, is there any proofing at all to back this claim up. As such, I am more than sceptical of this otherwise vague statement.

How Does Win Leader Work?

As a service, Julian Winmore doesn’t really have a whole lot to say about what his service really entails. What he does talk about however is an incredibly comprehensive list of reasons as to why his selections are worthwhile. Now, this does get somewhat convoluted, so please bear with me, but effectively, Win Leader is supposedly built on a very multifaceted approach to betting.

First things, we are told that Julian Winmore was a “UK & Ireland Racings Expert”. This creates a situation whereby he is supposedly able to “size up a winning race card in minutes”. We are told that this skill is linked to time working for “the Racing Association” where he was part of a secret team that allocated a handicap rating to horses.

On top of this, we are also told that during his time spent involved in the racing industry, Julian Winmore has developed a number of friends who are able to provide him with inside information. This includes, but is not limited to, one “Jockey X”. This person is supposedly a top current jockey who cannot be named for legal reasons.

By taking his own claimed understanding of the ratings involved with horse racing, and the insider information from his industry connections, Julian Winmore is able to identify winners. These selections are supposedly sent out to be verified by this team of insiders.

I feel lit is important to highlight the fact that whilst all of this sounds very impressive, there isn’t a single iota of evidence to suggest that any of this is real. In actual fact, there is very little evidence backing up the various claims that are made about Win Leader and its potential. As such, I am very inclined to treat them with a healthy dose of cynicism.

What is the Initial Investment?

There is just one option if you want to sign up to Win Leader. This is a one time payment of £39 plus VAT. What is really interesting about this number however is the fact that Julian Winmore doesn’t actually mention this price anywhere in the sales material. We are also told that it is a discounted rate, however there is no information on what this is discounted from.

About the only real positive that I can say with confidence about Win Leader is that there is a full 60 day money back guarantee in place. This is backed up by the fact that Julian Winmore is selling access to his selections via the Clickbank platform.

What is the Rate of Return?

The income potential for Win Leader is a little bit all over the place. Well, actually quite a lot all over the place, if I’m honest. In the headlines, there is mention of making £65,535 in just 12 months. Elsewhere, there is mention made  of making more than £100,000 in a year.

Both of these numbers are “backed up” with claims made of profits of anywhere from £5,000 to £10,000 in a month. This is supposedly backed up by a massively questionable screenshot of a Natwest bank account with £109,736.10 in it.

Now, even if you do take these numbers as a given, there are other factors to be considered. For example, it is noteworthy that Julian Winmore doesn’t actually say how much bet bets. As such, even if you give Win Leader full benefit of doubt, £100,000 could simply be 100 points to £1,00 stakes. This is a vert deliberate attempt to avoid providing context in my opinion.  

Conclusion for Win Leader

It doesn’t take a whole lot to look at Win Leader and pretty easily see that this is a highly questionable tipster service. Honestly, if Julian Winmore can’t decide on things that are as simple as how much money you can make, how can you ever realistically look at his services and the claimed results  seriously?

Honestly, it has been some time since I have seen a tipster service that has been so slovenly put together. But, let’s try and put all of that to one side for a minute and actually try and see if there are actually any positives to Win Leader.

I guess in a pinch, I can say that Win Leader isn’t particularly expensive? Even with that said though, there is no ignoring the fact that if you aren’t paying a lot of money for a bad tipster service, you are still paying for a bad tipster service.

Now, I might be being unfair here. And actually, Julian Winmore may well be entirely genuine. I would love nothing more than to see some information and evidence that proves everything that he says. But truthfully, I just don’t see that happening.

In fact, what I would say that what it really sounds like with Win Leader is that an internet marketer has come up with something that will sound good to those who don’t really understand a lot about betting. This goes a long way to explaining mistakes like that vague reference to the Racing Association and a secret team.

At the same time, referencing the idea of a secret team goes a long way to leaning in to the suspicions that so many losing bettors have that the game is rigged against them. And the fact of the matter is that there are a lot of people who fall into that kind of category.

Almost as if (again), an internet marketer has carefully chosen this notion to appeal to those who are perhaps more susceptible to BS and may even be struggling financially (hence his references to paying off “oppressive debts”).

Even if you put all of that to one side though, there isn’t a whole lot of reason to buy into Win Leader. The numbers are everywhere, there is absolutely no evidence of either the ability of Julian Winmore or his past results. Now, these are things that anybody who has been involved in horse racing for as long as we are told Julian Winmore has should know.

Frankly, it just isn’t good enough as far as I’m concerned. This is all pretty basic stuff and the fact that this isn’t present tells me a lot about what you can expect from Win Leader in the future. I would love to be proven wrong, but I just don’t see this happening. With that in mind, I would be inclined to give Win Leader a very wide berth.  

 

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From: Simon Roberts